We need to support, if not join the protests

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  1. Louisiana75

    Louisiana75 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why do you think I'm gonna die from it?

    Do you think the virus is going to be gone soon so the quivering people can safely emerge from their homes?
     
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    dadoalex Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Because

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    And given your support for stupid...
     
  3. Louisiana75

    Louisiana75 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    My red state has had minimal cases and minimal deaths, and we didn't even shut down.
    How's those blue states doing?
     
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    Zorro Well-Known Member

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    Fake News:

    The Death rate in States with Democrat Gov's is about triple the rate in States with Republican Gov's.

    The top death states are Blue States and DC with death rates of 1,417/M to 326/M deaths.

    In the 12 best states, 9 have GOP gov's and the death rate 12/M to 50/M.

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

    Democrat Gov's, in a large sense, are simply deadly, for the most part. Some, like Gavin Newsome of CA have done a surprisingly good job, but then he was smart enough to IMMEDIATELY suspend the regulation requiring that COVID positive patients be forced into rest-homes. So doing a good job is largely a function of not being a monumental idiot.

    Low testosterone levels are correlated with the promotion of COVID-19 infections, a likely part of the reason that the Red States are weathering this storm so much better.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7185012/

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    That is a silly thing to say. Surely, you know when there is a calamity, EVERY state requests federal emergency funds.
     
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    The experience of using up the stores of N95 masks and respirators and never replacing them for 7 years......that experience? YOU brought up Biden in our conversation.
     
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    dadoalex Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You're right, that is fake news.

    Of course a better way to put it is that the death rate in empty states is lower than that with actual people and that due to testosterone issues men in red states are bald, fat and show an extreme sexual desire regarding firearms.

    Now that's REAL NEWS
     
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    afaik, no level of government can collect taxes on stimulus gifted money. The federal government and state governments might for tax year 2020 when the returns are filed in Feb.-Apr. But little revenue is coming in now as corona crisis is fading down and people are still locked down.
     
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    Silly argument. The states with the highest infection rates are the states with the largest, busiest ports of entry and
    the largest density.

    I could say that Montana, with it's Democrat as governor, has seen the fewest infections and fewest deaths
    and is one of the first to open, and that this is proof positive that Democrats are better at handling the disease - but that
    would be leaving a whole lot of important details out of the equation, wouldn't it.
     
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    That doesn't even make sense. CA has the most populated county in the Union, yet is in one of the better managed COVID outbreaks, 81 dead per Mill, demonstrating that even a Blue Gov with a few brain cells can pass this test.

    Cook County in Illinois is our second biggest county, Blue Gov, state death rate 326/M, deadly.

    Harris Texas, our 3rd most populous county, Good Red Gov, 46/M state death rate, a Gov that's passing the test in style.

    Maricopa, AZ, 4th most populous county, good Red Gov, 93/M death rate for the state, a Gov that's passing the test.

    San Diego County, 5th most populous, 81/M dead rate in the state

    Orange County, 6th most populous, 81/M state death rate.

    Maimi-Dade 7th most populous, 91/M state death rate, smart Red Gov

    Dallas, 8th most populous, in state with a 46/M death rate, certainly didn't order COVID infected into Nursing homes like Gov Grandma Killer Cuomo.

    9th most pop, Kings County NY, Gov Grandma Killer Cuomo blaming everyone but himself for his 1,446/M state death rate. You are 31 TIMES more likely to die in NY, of COVID, under the deadly brutal reign of Gov Grandma Killer, Cuomo than under the tender leadership of the Good Gov of Texas.

    10th, Riverside, CA, state death rate, 81/M. This gov, as soon as nursing homes pushed back, suspended the Grandma Killing regulations that Cuomo kept in place with a butcher bill that continues to this this day.

    So, your empty rhetoric aside about "empty" states, except for Illinois and New York, the 10 most populous counties are well below the US average of 272/M.

    It's about 3 times deadlier to live under a Blue State Gov than a Good Red State Gov. And whining, blaming and finger-pointing are associated with low testosterone levels as is a more deadly experience with virus.

    Those are simply the facts the data presents to us, it's not particularly sensible to take that personally. Look toward the Gov's that are winning, and emulate them, look away from the Gov's that are whining, blaming and losing, that's all.
     
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    Yup!

    We could go into the election with a bunch of prosperous Red State Gov's with gratefully kicking ass economies, and a handful of whiny Blue State Grandma Killing Gov's blaming others, fingerpointing and demanding handouts.

    Even Blue State Gov Newsom, an unexpectedly "not a moron" Gov, certainly has asked for a handout, even while preparing and delivering the plan that's needed if a third round of handouts don't materialize.
    • $5.1B savings in education.
    • $2.4 billion savings in supplemental payments to California’s largest public pension plans, CalPERS and CalSTRS.
    • 10% savings in wages for California's well-paid state workers and savings in Medi-Cal services, including some dental and vision benefits.
     
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    So you say that it's "better" in those "red" states then proceed to list 9 "better" places 5 of which are "blue."

    THEN proceed to say that I'm not making sense?

    Try again. Do you really think the virus "knows" about your red vs blue crap? Then, to throw a giant bucket of piss on your theory, there's Hawaii. Let's compare Hawaii with N & S Dakota. States with similar population totals (ND + SD = Hi).
    Bright red ND and SD total infections just over 5,000
    Blue as Blue can be Hawaii 631

    Could it be, oh let's just think about it, COULD THERE BE more factors in play than Red or Blue?

    Should I slap you some more or have you learned your lesson?
     
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    Do your own damn work. What is it with you folk thinking that you can demand others labor on your behalf.
    OK - You haven't made any yet, but I have high hopes!
    That's the point. It's purely a physical measurement of the local situation and death rates are three times higher in States with Blue Govs than with Red Govs. Those are simply facts. You don't have to take them personally, but, these failed Blue Govs should learn from their failures by emulating the successful Red Govs.
    The exceptions prove the rule. HI, MT, ME have Blue Govs that have done a good job, thank goodness your average that shows you have 3 times the death rate, includes these blessed exceptions. In the 13 states with the best record, only 3 have Blue Gov's.
    Seriously? That's your problem, rather than honestly assess and learn, you impotently long for the ability to prevail through violence. Sad!
     
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    Aw. Poor fellow gets slapped around a little for making silly claims and whines about it.

    What Hi, MT, and ME share in addition to effective Democratic governors is that they are isolated from external factors. Just like ND and SD. Note your leaving that comparison out of the quote. Was that because it takes your Red-Blue obsession and slaps you over the head with it? That it proves that everything you believe and have been trained to believe about Republican vs Democratic governance is just a load of crap? Your belief system has just collapsed around you?

    How is it possible a Democrat, any Democrat could do better than the worst Republican?

    So why don't you and yours drop that US vs THEM crap that drives your every waking moment and come to understand we are the US. All of us. When people die in New York they have friends and relatives in Ohio that mourn. That when a packing plant worker is infected we shouldn't worry about whether the meat gets out but about that worker, their coworkers, their family, their communities.

    Or just live with your hate. ll the same to me.
     
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    But yet you and other board leftist keep comparing the US's caseload to other countries who do not have the population nor the numerous densely populated areas that we do. Double standard?
     
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    1,500,000 Americans over 80 die each year.
     
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    Who did you vote for in 2016? Include Fed and State Reps + Senators. They are the ones with the knee on the neck of your business.
     
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    Considering all these new cases from more testing the rate of death on the total death curve isn't anything like it was in April, even with all the riots. The daily new deaths are up some, but again, nothing like April.

    The thing is overblown in the Mainstream Marxist Media for political reasons.
     

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