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  1. Abu Sina

    Abu Sina New Member

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    PLEASE!!!!!!!For Gods sake Americans this time vote in your elections for someone who doesn't seem like he should be locked up in an asylum.

    VOTE RON PAUL!

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    For the first time I really feel that the planet might have a chance of surviving.

    Watching that debate thing yesterday was horrific.
    I was just imagining what would happen if the likes of that madwoman Bachmann became President!!!!!:omg:

    and how they all disrespected each other live on TV!!!!!

    Are these the types you vote for in an election??????

    You can just imagine them with other Presidents and Leaders can't you!


    For the sake of our planet and the sake of peace and for just not being utterly stupid for once in your lives for Gods Sake can you all vote for Ron Paul!

    I want to have the chance to rebuild my country and I dont want you lot destroying the planet before I get a chance to see a new Egypt!

    http://www.presstv.ir/detail/193683.html
     
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    If he ain't backed by AIPAC he ain't American !!
     
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    politicalcenter Well-Known Member

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    I am considering voting for him. Michelle scares the heck out of me. The woman is a rabble rouser.

    I do admit that at first I thought Ron Paul was mad...but the more I hear of him the more sense he makes.

    Most Americans would like nothing better than to put our own house in order and take care of our own business.

    I hope Egypt becomes a stable, free, and prosperous country...it would benifit the whole world.
     
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    Abu Sina New Member

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    He's the one talking sense amongst the lunatics on that stage last night.

    Do you think he has any chance of winning or are Americans going to elect another another ?

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    Oh this gives me hope!!:sun:

    So do you think he will get most votes and win then?
     
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    Oh this gives me hope!!:sun:

    So do you think he will get most votes and win then?

    My country needs a lot of help because there are players in the region who dont want our revolution to win because it will affect them and their thrones. Their people will also be calling for democracy and freedom to elect who they want instead of ministers being family members and friends and in office for decades.
    We have powerful rich fighting against our revolution in neighbouring countries but on their other face they are saying the support it. How can they support something they deny their own people.

    The best help we can get is people staying out of our affairs and let us make our own path.
    Stop the bribery and offers with strings attached.
    A new uncorrupt Egypt for the people.
     
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    DonGlock26 New Member Past Donor

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    America tried the Ron Paul way early in our history, and Muslim states attacked us anyway.
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  8. moon

    moon Well-Known Member

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    Sure, the US of AIPAC has been minding its own business in its own backyard whilst muslim States have waged multiple invasive wars and sown 1,000 military bases around the world. Get real.
     
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    Since nothing else is working, perhaps its finally time to elect someone who makes sense, unless one rather listens to empty words and eloquent speeches and promised that can't be kept.
     
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    If you want to blame a state due to the attackers nationalities, you'd have to blame Saudi Arabia.

    Are you saying we were following the 'Ron Paul way' on 9/11? You seem to be jumping all over the place with your post.
     
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    http://www.juancole.com/2011/08/paul-santorum-and-the-sixth-war-on-iran.html

    Makes sense to me. But then, I'm not a territory/power crazed neoZionist.
     
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    DonGlock26 New Member Past Donor

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    Get a history book.

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    DonGlock26 New Member Past Donor

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    True, but Islamists come from all over the Muslim world. From the Philippines to China, from Thailand to India, and from Denmark to Egypt, Muslims are murdering innocent people in the name of their death cult.

    Of course not, Ron's way is isolationist, and we tried it already.

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    Well the policy of US isolationism isn't exactly new. The last couple of times this policy was in vogue was prior to WWI and WWII so the evidence that it leads to a more peaceful world is questionable. I think you will see more private contractors like Blackwater protecting US business interests and operating in a grey zone in an increasing number of places like Somalia as well as airports, harbours and other infrastructure. All with even less accountability and more out of government cotroll than the present day Rambo types at present that you otherwise dislike. As for destruction of the planet I doubt Ron Paul will side with the environmentalists and not big business. He's a constitutions fundamentalist and the founding fathers didn't see the environment as an issue back then.

    If you realy want to build a democratic country then start with yourself and your antidemocratic ways and attitudes instead of being so concerned of hostile foreign meddling.
     
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    I've got the Internet. I repeat, sure, the US of AIPAC has been minding its own business in its own backyard whilst muslim States have waged multiple invasive wars and sown 1,000 military bases around the world. Get real.
     
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    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    On the downside Ron Paul will not be nominated by the Republicans. He doesn't support federal interventionism in the personal lives of the People and doesn't support US military interventionism in world affairs that seem to be a hallmark of most Republicans.

    Gary Johnson, the former Republican governor of New Mexico, is another quality GOP candidate but he's being ignored by the media because of his libertarian positions.

    In a contest of the "lesser of two evils" which is the normal choice given to Americans Michelle Bachmann would lose to Obama just as McCain lost to Obama. Independents, which are necessary for someone to be elected to the presidency, won't support a nutcase like Bachmann. Republicans are likely to lose in 2012 because of their extremist base which votes in the primaries and those they nominate are generally the bottom of the barrel.
     
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    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    On the downside Ron Paul will not be nominated by the Republicans. He doesn't support federal interventionism in the personal lives of the People and doesn't support US military interventionism in world affairs that seem to be a hallmark of most Republicans.

    Gary Johnson, the former Republican governor of New Mexico, is another quality GOP candidate but he's being ignored by the media because of his libertarian positions.

    In a contest of the "lesser of two evils" which is the normal choice given to Americans Michelle Bachmann would lose to Obama just as McCain lost to Obama. Independents, which are necessary for someone to be elected to the presidency, won't support a nutcase like Bachmann. Republicans are likely to lose in 2012 because of their extremist base which votes in the primaries and those they nominate are generally the bottom of the barrel.
     
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    I voted for Andre V. Marrou to protest the war in Iraq, and got Bill Clinton's policy of endless lukewarm "liberal" arts of war in Iraq of Oil for Food and "Peace" for Greed (a lawyer in town says there was no invasion of Iraq by Clinton, as four hundred cruise missiles do not count, and his economy was the greatest) until the Sunni roots fell away into the dustbin of Obamanation old age retirement for more ethnic cleansing of Shiites from power by the Butcher of Baghdad's sons.

    Considering that you would never tell me who the magical "they" are that Saddam said, "should, rather, be reassured and helped to save themselves, and their surroundings," I will just consider your endorsement as the KISS OF DEATH!.
     
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    I can understand the frustration many have with America, but electing Ron Paul won't fix much.

    He'd probably get assassinated or framed before actually changing things effectively if he got elected.

    Besides, about half of what he stands for is more appropriate for the asylum than what our actual leaders stand for.
     
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    To both you and Shiva:
    So how can things get changed effectively in our (corrupt) 2 party seesaw system?
    What is the solution? Why do most Americans cling to these 2 parties?
     
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    .... when was this?
     
  22. Serfin' USA

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    Well, personally, I think the best move would be to push for a national referendum on acceptance/approval voting.

    If every major election had that, you'd see the rise of third party alternatives.

    Libertarians and Greens would be more viable.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Approval_voting
     
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    Finally, a foreigner sees who they should be advocating for the American presidency, and realizes that Obama is not that guy!

    Kudos!
     
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    I would imagine that most foreigners are starting to find it hard to separate Obama from his competition.
     
  25. Abu Sina

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    Most foreigners are sick or US arrogance and double standards.

    I had to laugh when Clinton said yesterday to the 'other nations' to 'choose the right path in history':omg:

    The woman is either mentally ill or just plain evil.
     

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