Well Biden now has his own Saigon to his name

Clearly they had no plan, and by most accounts Biden did not listen to his military leaders on this, but I have not seen that verified.

 

Biden assured us all the Talban could never beat the Forces of Afghanistan.

 

I saw an article saying the same - that the CIA had presented him with plans that he rejected. Who knows who is really running this show.

 

That makes it about me.

 

clearly he was wrong. Not the first time and not the last.

We as a country should have known better, we watched this same thing happen in Iraq when ISIS came to town. These people cannot be trusted to defend their own lands. One more reason to say **** em and move on

 

We as a country do not make those decisions.

I warned against electing Biden. That was all I could do.

 

we elect our leaders, thus we are responsible

 

Are you taking the blame for this defeat?

 

I did not elect Josef Biden.

 

It was not a defeat, but the county as a whole gets any blame

But the country did

 

You are just defensive because Biden screwed the pooch so badly.

 

"WELL, IT SHOULD": Afghanistan takeover sparks concern from NATO allies.

"They told me if I voted for Donald Trump, our allies would lose all confidence in our staying power — and they were right!"

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/468285/

Taliban Thanks Biden For All The New Cool Weapons.​

Biden's rash abrupt petulance caught our allies flat footed:

"Germany's Laschet: NATO's 'biggest debacle'"

Biden just handed NATO it's first ever loss.

No meeting of the minds, no joint and coordinated strategy, just Biden saying f it and abruptly pulling the plug. Sounds like Germany will certainly consider withdrawing from the alliance.

Merkel says Biden was trying to score cheap political points at home

It wasn't just Americans that died for the mission that Biden just took a crap on.

"UK defense chief laments 'failure'"

It's not at all clear than "Western Powers" beyond Biden were the problem.

 

There is a report of between 10,000 to 40,000 Americans stranded in Afghanistan. The airlifted 700-800 people out in the last 24 hours but only 165 Americans.

 

yes he did, I have not questioned that one iota.

Unlike you I can criticize people from both parties.

 

Each of those counties are more than ****ing welcome to send their troops and their tax dollars to the country and see if they can do any better.

Since when did you Trump folks care about what any other country thinks about us?

 

To compare Biden's greatest folly, to date, to Saigon is a grave disservice to the brave pilots in 1975 who successfully evacuated 120 THOUSAND Americans and allies, under great peril, while taking enemy fire, often at night, with no running lights.

That's what America did under Gerald Ford. Biden just said f it and left. No coordination with our local allies, no coordination with our NATO allies, no coordination with our NGO's, no coordination with Pakistan - an insecure nuclear power that suddenly shared a long border with a nation in the hands of now much better armed Taliban, now with an airforce and a drone fleet.

Now he is half assing some stuff, after the fact, because on some level he is able to perceive the political damage.

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Once a bright possible future of freedom and liberation, now after a petulant disaster by Biden, it's back to the Bee Suits and preparing for a brief "marriages" to Taliban fighters.

 

Anyone have an estimate of the number of Taliban fighters?

I saw 39,000 on one site, but who knows how good that number is.

 

Exactly; and you would think that would be obvious to anyone, educated or not. Even if one were in some way tied to the plane, the lack of oxygen and the fall in temperature on the outside would be fatal in short order.

 

There is no doubt one would amount to a human ice cube on the way down.

 

Sound defense of Biden. Thanks for supporting Biden as usual.

 

Reminds me of the line from "Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid." "But, I can't swim!" "Fool, the fall's is going to kill you!" Ten to one a woman U.S. President - from either Party - would have taken greater care regarding the 18 million Afghan women we are having behind to return to a life in the middle ages.

 

Good luck to any American that manages to survive the flag of Surrender flown by Biden.

 

You get the civilians out first, then the military. Backassward Biden did the opposite.

 

Women are Biden's last worry.

 

Right you are.