Well-educated children of Turkish immigrants leave Germany in droves.

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  1. Ostap Bender

    Ostap Bender Well-Known Member

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    Sorry, but something is here stupid, the best Immigrants leave Germany in droves, the worsts scum and criminals come in. Interesting , that not only the bests Immigrants go away, but only few new well educated immigrants are attracted to work in Germany. It would be a big problem because the generation of baby boomers begin to go retired and only very few Specialists go to work in Germany.That's the best evidence that idiocy lefts policy "Everybody is welcome" has failed. Where Germany will get new Specialists?


    http://blog.gmfus.org/2010/03/the-r...children-of-turkish-immigrants-leave-germany/
     
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    The German right murders a bunch of shop owners (lower skill / income, yet contributors), the skilled Turks leave because they are able to.

    I can understand their position, I'd consider it myself as they simply want to work for a better life for their kids.

    Blame should include the German right wing who are driving away the skilled people. But eno-Nazi's aren't typically the sharpest knives in the drawer.
     
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    Glücksritter Well-Known Member

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    Look at the economic growth rate of Turkey and you know why they are leaving. In many European countries you have higher wages than in Germany for highly qualified workers.

    If you were young, you were able to speak Turkish, you know Turkey, you have even friends and relatives there and you could earn there let's say 30% more, how would you decide?
     
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    There was a report on television about the same phenomenon in Belgium a couple of months ago.

    First of all, Western Europeans of Turkish decent aren't exactly leaving in droves -- it is just something entirely new.

    Most Western Europeans of Turkish descent don't like Turkey to begin with -- no friends, family they don't know well, etc.

    Anyways, if I would be of Turkish descent and my family comes from a nice place (so, not some village up in the mountains that has no running water), I would go to Turkey too. As highly educated Western European you would earn way more in Turkey than in Germany or Belgium, you could have a far better lifestyle and Turkey is a reasonable modern country, depending on where you go.

    But again, it's hardly in droves -- at least for Belgium (since I rememember seeing headlines of German immigration has turned into netto-emigration) -- it's just something new.
     
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    DutchClogCyborg New Member

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    It is simply really.

    Most Immigrants have failed to be part of society, many are leeches ( see wellfare abuse), criminal and more the result is an increasing lobby against their presence, but in the end its not the ''bad'' people who leave, they are on wellfare anyway, the people who leave are the educated ones with a great future ahead of them.
     
  6. Ostap Bender

    Ostap Bender Well-Known Member

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    If Germany want to get well-educated people it should stop welfare for the new immigrants like the US it do and chose only those who are suitable to the German society.
    Germany have already too much "specialists" for Dönner and Vegetables.
     
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    Ostap Bender Well-Known Member

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    Therefore Europa should use the American Integration Concepts:

    No Discrimination and No Welfare for the New Immigrants.
     
  8. janpor

    janpor Well-Known Member

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    I actually agree with this.

    However, I've got some friends who are social workers Ostap...

    What with Somali refugees who's entire family was hunted down with, literally, bow and arrow and then lit on fire whilst (semi-)alive?!

    They arrive, via human smugglers, here and they can't speak the language and have no skills -- some can not even read or write.

    We can't send them back to a warzone, can we (I don't think so, you might disagree).

    Shouldn't we give them welfare but more in a 1950's sense: room and board and an education?!

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  9. Ostap Bender

    Ostap Bender Well-Known Member

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    It must be quickly procedure for granting of Asylum, all liars and criminals must leave the country. If impossible to the country of Original, than in the poorest villages of Bulgaria or Romania.Thereafter the amount of refuges will go down.

    Question: Why Muslim refuges do not go to other Muslim countries, or African to the African ones?Europa should accept Refuges of European or Christian Original only, by all others there are many Integrations problems.
     
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    Yes janpor you can send them back, they have no place here, no skills and usually virtually always end up criminal.

    If i have to choose between the well being of my own countrymen or a Somali refugee ( who also could have fled to an African nation mind you! ) i choose for my country.
     
  11. AGS

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    the educated turkish immigrants coming to germany will leave germany back to turkey so they can enhance their skills in turkey and make a name for themselves...

    now the worst immigrants will come to germany so they can take advantage of the socialist welfare handouts given to them and use up all german tax payers money for nothing...and just for their own use...

    you see this multiculturalism socialism will destroy europe and just give these middle eastern immigrants to take advantage of every thing in germany.

    making germany poor and bankrupt...in years to come..and the native germans are not even reproducing at a steady state..
     
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    I can only agree. This is exactly what Sarrazin warned against. Germany is going to decline because of these uneducated, low-IQ immigrants.
     

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