What Are We Going to do About Schools?

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  1. FlamingLib

    FlamingLib Well-Known Member

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    Some districts (like mine), are slated to reopen as early as the beginning of August. If you're in a state where this is simmering at a low-level in the population (like California) come Summer, what do you do? The teachers will warn about massive spikes in infection rates (and their own safety), but the parents will argue the economic impacts of closed schools would be catastrophic on already shattered families- daycare for a month for just one kid can easily top $1,000.

    One of my colleagues suggested we take our normal class loads (around 27 kids), cut it by a third, and then rotate those groups through every three days. This makes some sense: I can't social distance with 27 kids in the room, but I probably could with 9 in there. But are parents going to be OK with their kids going to school only 1/3 of the time?
     
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    The only sane course was the one not taken by the Authoritarian LW-Complex, segregate the vulnerable at risk and business as usual for everyone else until the herd immunity builds up.

    Quarantine is for those sick and endangered, not the healthy. This elementary fact will be made abundantly clear by a truly IMMENSE amount of lawsuits washing over the country starting any minute now.
     
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    We need to isolate the infected. We couldn't do that because we didn't have a test readily available.

    Cut the LW psychobabble nonsense. It is embarrassing even to an Independent bystander.
     
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    How did the 'authoritarian LW complex take over Trump's administration?
     
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    I'll stick with the 100s of studies and scientists I've reviewed over your transparently self-interested LW-Complex narratives.

    What's embarrassing is the whole total of your posts to this forum on any topic.
     
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    Sorry, no time for 6th grade Civics class today, see your home room teacher for that.
     
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    There are about 20 million people over 70 in the U.S. Another 30 million have diabetes. 10 million are immune compromised (cancer patients, HIV positive people, organ transplant recipients, etc.) and another 30 million diagnosed with heart disease (nevermind the millions who are walking around undiagnosed).

    Naturally, there's some overlap among those groups, but you're talking about segregating at least 20% of the population for a very long time. That's not doable, for obvious reasons.
     
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    Conspiracy theory noted. Also noted is the fragility of the Trump administration that they could be so infiltrated and undermined. Carry on - and see you in the caf!
     
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    1. These folks aren't exactly running any half-marathons to start with, so get honest. If there's some RBG granny doing dips and pullups at the gym out of 1000? Sorry granny, but Corona probably wouldn't get you anyway, she's too tough. But you know what, Yoga Granny? DO WHAT YOU WANT, IT'S YOUR LIFE. Our country is FOUNDED on such stuff.
    2. Also get honest on the numbers. Don't admit overlap and then post a list of numbers to be added. They are either older than 70 or they are not. Most of those will have preexisting conditions.

    But, doesn't directly address the point anyway. To repeat, quarantines are for the SICK or at risk, not the HEALTHY. Other than that, it's each to his or her own.
     
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    That doesn't matter. You're talking about "segregating" tens of millions of people. It won't work. They're going to get exposed, there's just no way around it: the market, the grandkids come over, family dinners, church, etc.

    If you're older than 70 you ARE at risk, so there's about 20 million right there. And I doubt those 20 million all have HIV AND heart disease AND diabetes AND cancer AND are organ recipients. I didn't even include people with respiratory issues.

    So yeah, you're talking about a huge group of people. Your "segregation" idea will never work.

    You can repeat yourself all you want, but you're not going to segregate tens of millions of Americans, for the reasons given. It's a ridiculous idea. Those people are not going to live in the attic until we get a vaccine.
     
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    Dealt with prior, nonresponsive, not surprised. Stopped reading there.
     
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    This isn't hard. People over 70 are in a high risk group and there are roughly 20 million of them. Hell, people over 65 are at risk and there's 47 million of them. So right there, you want to segregate tens of millions of people.
    https://www.census.gov/newsroom/facts-for-features/2017/cb17-ff08.html

    How are you going to do that?
     
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    No it's not hard... to repeat dishonestly like a broken record, not hard at all. Not surprised. For the final time, it is a -choice- that senior citizens can choose as they like or not. FORCING HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of healthy people on the other side is absurd. Forcing ANY group of ANY Americans based on faulty, exaggerated numbers and fake science is not only absurd but against the law. Stop disingenuously trying to fudge the numbers to 65 or 70+ in addition, when the true "at risk" population is at least 75+.

    Strip out the 75+ victims, and this whole SCAM becomes just another way old people die to respiratory diseases, broken hips, strokes, heart attacks, afib, etc. etc. and not any kind of plague threat. You "believe" this way because it supports your POLITICS. Don't LIE and claim otherwise, or pull up your threads and posts on the topic of restricting gay sex due to AIDS. Null set. Not fooling anyone.
     
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    "Scam"? Riiiiight. I like the ignore function around here. It works better than a lot of other message boards'.
     
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    I am FREAKING puzzled by that myself. How did Birx/Fauci recommend these far-left policies, how did the governors enact this in a "state of emergency". How were we treated like cattle? None of this was okay. Our governmental and political norms were all SHAT on. And I don't have a clue on why Trump caved, other than the desire to be elected again.
     
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    I rarely put people on ignore, too much fun to make their posts look ridiculous in print for all to see.

    Oh, and to repeat, you believe this way because it supports your POLITICS. Don't LIE and claim otherwise, or just pull up threads and posts where you advocated restricting gay sex due to AIDS. Null set. Not fooling anyone.
     
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    Trump had little choice. Had he not done what he did, the Complex, its hordes of lying bureaucrats and TDS thralls, its propaganda MSM, would have burned the whole country to the ground. Think about it and you will see the stakes. We were perilously close as it was.
     
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    Apparently you DID have time for 6th grade civics class. Thanks for answering, even if it was circuitously.

    It must be horribly disappointing for yourself and others who also thought of Trump as the Great White Hope. In the end, he couldn't do what he said he would. But it must be heartening for him to have supporters who recognize that he tried. And facing such a monolithic monster, even the Great Trump couldn't stand up!
     
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    Trump is the President, it was his policy, not the lefts, good or bad, they picked the task force, was their recommendations the states followed
     
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    Trump has TDS, he is patient zero, is he contagious? the right better not go to those TDS infested Trump rallies anymore

    Trump made a choice, don't blame the left, the buck stops at the President's desk
     
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    the whole world was doing it, Trump decided to be a follower, rather then a leader?

    to be fair to Trump, looks like the data he went off of was wrong, the cases came to American late last year most likely, not late February as originally thought

    better testing early on might have caught this, but they had defective tests

    as they go back and test more of the people that died in November and December of last year's blood samples, I think we will find it was here much earlier
     
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    I know you're being sarcastic, but you can't be okay with this. What if Republican policies were pushed on a Biden Administration, during the mid-terms? How would you feel? If media outlets and organized universities can effectively dictate our political system, then the system itself is dead.
     
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    Via the coordinated and immense propaganda efforts of the politically corrupt leftist-allied Mainstream Media working for the DNC. But thanks for asking.
     
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    someone probably told Trump how Obama handled it in 2009, and Trump decided he did not want to do it that way... cause Obama
     
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    the President makes the choice, if Biden makes a choice, it's his choice

    only with Trump do his supporters blame others if he makes the wrong choice

    when a President makes a choice, he gets the credit as well as the criticism of that choice - as it was his choice
     
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