What are Y'all Gonna Do Next Month When A Gallon Of Milk Cost $11

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  1. Lucifer

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    Yes, interesting indeed that Repubs cannot seem to connect the dots. It's par for the course, I guess.
     
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    Nobody can connect leftist dots. Which is why their own media (CNN, MSNBC) have lost over 80% of their viewership.
     
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    God, you guys are boring.

    Same crap, different day.
     
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    Its so tough to repeat the same ole garbage to find out nobody is listening.
    Nobody buys into these leftist claims any more.
     
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    The cooling tanks are to cool milk from the cows body temp.

    Typically the milk is Pasteurized at the milk barn collection tanks.

    If you homogenize you are limiting options for the milk as far as what it it can be used for. Sometimes that's an issue, sometimes not.

    Usually a dairy truck pulls in and collects your pasteurized milk from the last 2 or 3 days.
     
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    No, it's the right-wing crap that is getting intolerable and these stupid word games you play only underline the degree of stupidity from that side of the aisle.
     
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    Uh, huh. You mean like claiming the Republican party has now magically changed to supporting big government because they are hosting bills to fight Democrats?
    Wasn't that your first response? And you accuse others of word games?
    Or did you think that posting the fact CNN and MSNBC have lost over 80% of their viewership was just word games as well?
    Seems all evidence to the contrary
     
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    No. Rightists want big government to step in and make things cheaper for them because they want to blame Democrats for their own failed choices in life.
     
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    While Dumbocrats claim triple gas prices and the highest inflation in history is protecting democracy because its all Russia's fault.
    Go figure
     
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    Yeah, your beloved Trump signed an agreement that thankfully expires next month to REDUCE oil produced.
     
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    I am a little confused. I would assume that the "milk barn collection tanks," are the first containers the milk is in. If it is there, in which the milk is pasteurized-- that is, heated (beyond the cow's body temp)-- and then goes to the "cooling tanks," it seems more appropriate to say the milk is cooling from the pasteurization process (as I had originally assumed), than from the cow's body temp.

    If my thinking, above, is correct, even though you are not drinking raw milk (which can be dangerous), your drinking of unhomogenized milk, makes your own case exceptional. Most do not have that, as a practical option.


    Just curious, what "options" for its use-- butter? or certain cheeses?-- use only non- homogenized milk? I had actually long wondered if buying non- fat milk, or, more appropriate to my own case, nonfat yogurt, would guarantee it had not undergone homogenization, or if the fat was strained out, later (which seems more difficult, & wasteful yet, how would I know the setup in a milk operation, and so what was deemed the most efficient method?). Is even full-fat yogurt, homogenized?

    What had especially made me wonder this, is the selling, sometimes I think by the same dairies, of both "skim," milk-- which I assume is skimmed off prior to homogenization-- and "non-fat" milk. What's the difference?
     
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    And that is effected by what refiners can buy HERE and how MUCH the can buy HERE, you don't understand that?
     
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    We had cheap oil when we had high demand before COVID, when we were producing more HERE.
     
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    It is cheaper to process some dirty grades cheaper where environmental standards are lower and labor is cheaper but only a small amount and especially when we have more than we can process.
     
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    With all due respect, you are beginning to bore the hades out of me.

    For starters I said, "with the comparison of the $11 for a gallon of milk." I have maintained that argument throughout and yes it was hyperbole. Even with gas prices at what they are, milk is about $3 per gallon. If ther was a shortage of milk, let's say, 80% of all milking cows have dead hoof disease, then the price of milk will go up and substitute products will come more into play. But $11 a gallon of milk is not in the cards anytime soon or a year from now. Oh hades, even the article admitted that as well.

    Just because you don't accept the definition does not make that definition incorrect. That definition has been the definition of the United States Department of Energy, every major and minor oil exploration and oil service company, and the international standard. You are arguing not energy independence, but oil self sufficient, which is a totally different concept. For that concept to be true, that means no oil imports from Canada, our largest oil importer to every other country we get. But oil is not equal. We have light crude, heavy crude, sweet crude, "sour" crude and every other permenation out there. And that will never happen.

    Our energy output comes from oil, natural gas, nuclear, solar, windmill, and hydro. That combined total produces more energy output than what we use and that is energy independence.

    Finally, we do not have that much oil. Our total oil researves, as of 2018, is 35,230,000,000 barrels, or 2.13% of total oil reserves worldwide, or 11th in the world. However, we are first in oil production and oil consumption in the world. We produce about 14 million barrels per day. If we hold the reserves and production as constant, 14 million per day out of 35 billion total is not going to last very long, is it.

    And we import about 7 million barrels per day, with over half coming from Canada alone. If you want oil independence, I would suggest cutting off oil imports from Canada and Mexico first, our two largest importers and go from there. Are you game with that?

    It is why we need to get away from the oil or bust mantra. I do believe in renewable energy, but up to a point and not agree with the proposals that Democrats have offered. Bear in mind, that 90% of all renewable patents are owned by the majoir oil companies in the United States. What these companies need is economic incentive, aka consumer demand shift from oil based consumption to alternatives. Consumers will also need an economic incentive as well. The big question is what type of economic incentive.

    https://www.americansecurityproject.org/ASP Reports/Ref 0115 - What Is Energy Independence?.pdf
     
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    when they do it, we will make sure they do it right next to your place.
     
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    When who does what and why?
     
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    Conservatives were blaming Obama for the "high gas prices" as late as January 2017. And we were itching towards $3 per gallon of gas by the mid of 2019, before the pandemic. We steadily increased from 2017 to 2020, February 2020 until Covid hit with full force of a Cat 5 hurricane, globally.

    https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=pet&s=emm_epmr_pte_nus_dpg&f=m
     
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    from your quote about "It is cheaper to process some dirty grades cheaper where environmental standards are lower..." In other words, I will place a oil production factory that will produce cheaper, more dirty crude oil with bypassing environmental standards so that you can have your "cheap gas"

    Somehow I think you will object to that being next to your place.
     
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    Just wow, just when you thought the conversation couldn't get any dumber. I bet thats exactly what you think. Isn't it.
    When gas hit $1.80 a gallon, because Trump deregulated all the idiotic green deal regulations from dumbasscrats, the oil markets could have flipped. Trump told them to reduce their output to keep the market share stable. But those are things way way over your head.
    Even in the face of actual historical gas prices under Trump vs Biden, you still can get it.
    We know. These are not for those in specific intellect boxes.
     
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    Umm..Wish I invested in Milk futures?
    Crude Oil is down by the way...I am invested in that :(
     
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    Trumpists can believe what they want to believe.
     
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    And the anti Trump cult reinforce those beliefs hourly
     
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    "You claimed when cheap foreign oil floods the US markets prices will come down."

    that is true, do you still think if foreign oil floods the market, prices will not come down?
     
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    so maybe we should ban exports of oil until the price comes down

    doesn't really mater though, as the price is set by the financial markets
     
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