What are your views on abortion?

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by Daggdag, Oct 19, 2020.

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Which best describes your view on abortion

  1. A woman has the right to choose to get an abortion with no limitations.

    41 vote(s)
    47.7%
  2. Abortion should be illegal after the first trimester

    16 vote(s)
    18.6%
  3. Abortion should be illegal except to preserve the health and life of the mother.

    24 vote(s)
    27.9%
  4. Abortion should be illegal in all circumstances.

    5 vote(s)
    5.8%
  1. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    Prosecution of what?
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Are you suggesting that a woman has no rights at all?
     
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    Relevance to abortion?
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    An individual woman in the US is covered under the Ninth Amendment. Claims by church or state to control her body are illegitimate.
     
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    Good.

    But, there are a whole lot of states with laws against your point here.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    How would you define or express my point?

    Have you studied the 14th Amendment and what it means, how it came about?
     
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    Yes, I would agree that the laws being written against women's healthcare are not legitimate.
     
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    What does the Ninth Amendment say about abortion?
     
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    Have you read the amendment? Is English your primary language?
     
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    I have. That is why I know that it doesn't say a thing about abortion.
     
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    Your poor comprehension of meaning of words suggests English is a second language for you.

    The enumeration in the Constitution of CERTAIN rights SHALL NOT BE CONSTRUED to deny or disparage others (rights) RETAINED BY THE PEOPLE. p.s. "the people" is comprised of individuals.
     
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    Suggesting it is a foundation upon which to build an assault on women's healthcare is about as stupid as imaginable.
     
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    Did I suggest that?
     
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    "CERTAIN rights." And abortion is one of them?
     
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    I'm suggesting that you not try that.
     
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    The right to bodily autonomy is well recognized.

    Except, that it is under constant assault, obviously.
     
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    Did I indicate that I would try it?
     
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    Where?
     
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    Outside of Florida and MAGA circles.
     
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    As in, in what government document and in which section?
     
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    Yes I know that. Many state and federal laws are written, legitimate or not, by politicians devoted to religious dogma and orthodoxy.
     
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    No, abortion is NOT one of the rights enumerated in the document. If you were familiar with the document you would know that, but obviously you're not familiar with the document.

    Examples of the enumerated rights are the right to trial by jury, included in what is called The Bill Of Rights. Read it someday, you might find it interesting.

    The point of the Ninth, as described by James Madison and others, is that an exhaustive listing of the rights of man is impossible. There are too many to list them all, hence the language of the Ninth, which seems to escape your grasp.
     
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    I'm sure that's true, is it's what's happening in a whole lot of US states.

    Sad to say, but the bought and paid for USSC has got their backs, regardless of the constitution.
     
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