What are your views on abortion?

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Which best describes your view on abortion

  1. A woman has the right to choose to get an abortion with no limitations.

    41 vote(s)
    47.7%
  2. Abortion should be illegal after the first trimester

    16 vote(s)
    18.6%
  3. Abortion should be illegal except to preserve the health and life of the mother.

    24 vote(s)
    27.9%
  4. Abortion should be illegal in all circumstances.

    5 vote(s)
    5.8%
  1. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I did not say I thought you should refute anything. - You said folks had excuses for being pro abortion - but did not mention give any of these excuses nor state who these people were.

    So it was mostly a post without substance - the little substance it did have being fallacious gibberish.

    refute that :)
     
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    An Taibhse Well-Known Member

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    Retroactive abortion?
     
  3. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    Who was that to?
     
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    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    Misinformation? So what is your understanding of the NY law? For the sake of your dignity, you BETTER not still be trusting what @FoxHastings to you without doing your own research. You've had DAYS to do your own research and I even gave you a helping hand by giving you the link to the Wikipedia article!

    This is correct.
     
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    Mother's choice. The end. Time for a snack.
     
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    DEFinning Well-Known Member Donor

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    See post #706. I put you on notification for it (@chris155au ), as well as mentioned my doing so, in a reply to you, immediately afterward. For my source, I used the law, as posted in a prior thread specifically about this law, by kazenatsu. That law, from what was posted, shows 1) that the usual cutoff, in NY, for abortions is 24 weeks, which I find to be acceptably reasonable (as previously discussed); and 2) the later term abortions being allowed only extend to cases in which the life or health of the mother is at risk. You had said that it made all abortions legal, as I recall. This is, from reading the actual statute, blatantly false. The only interpretation that would make that true would be kazenatsu's utterly unrealistic one, which I cover, in detail, in post #706.
     
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  7. chris155au

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    Okay, so no different to how late term abortion has ALWAYS worked then?
     
  8. chris155au

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    Exactly. No different to how abortion has ALWAYS worked.
     
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    .
     
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    No, the fertilized egg/zygote/fetus would NOT be transferable, which seems entirely reasonable in this scenario of a hypothetical artificial womb.
     
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    Okay then. It's the mother's choice, ultimately. The end. Time for a snack.
     
  14. chris155au

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    What does that have to do with my post which you quoted?
     
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    I have no idea! I was just breaking the silence.
     
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    Up until what point in the term?
     
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    Not sure.
     
  18. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, I think you're like most people, not sure.

    Most people envision abortion at 4 weeks pretty much the same as they do at 14 weeks. Or even 24 weeks.
    Because they just do not really actually know that much about it. "Abortion is abortion", after all.

    But there are HUGE differences between different gestational development points.
     
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    Oh, do show some proof of how you know what "most people" think ….


    A fetus isn't viable until 23-24 weeks....
     
  20. kazenatsu

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    If you think "viability" is the only criteria...

    Okay, do YOU think there's a big difference between 10 and 18 weeks, or do you think of them as pretty much the same? (or nearly the same)
     
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    I would agree. Ever been to a funeral for a 12-week miscarriage? Me either.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In my family they don't even have funerals for 75-year-olds.
     
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    For what?

    FoxHastings said:
    Oh, do show some proof of how you know what "most people" think ….""

    Then, a totally evasive non-related reply by Kas:


     
  24. chris155au

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    Is that because women have the right to their own body?
     
  25. FoxHastings

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    Which best describes your view on abortion
    1. *
      A woman has the right to choose to get an abortion with no limitations.
      27 vote(s)
      65.9%

    2. Abortion should be illegal after the first trimester
      7 vote(s)
      17.1%

    3. Abortion should be illegal except to preserve the health and life of the mother.
      6 vote(s)
      14.6%

    4. Abortion should be illegal in all circumstances.
      1 vote(s)
      2.4%
     
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