What do other nations think of Biden? Australia has an opinion...

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  1. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You and I are both stuck with the old confused Joseph Biden who supports China.
     
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    ChiCowboy Well-Known Member

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    Poor baby. You can vote for someone else next time. If you don't like Biden, why are you talking about him? BDS?
     
  3. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I see nothing at all praising our feeble current president Joseph Biden.
     
  4. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    IT is stunning any person in America admits they voted for Joseph the feeble minded Biden.
     
  5. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Does Feeble minded Joseph yet realize there is a deep state. China?

    The virus came from where?
     
  6. spiritgide

    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If everybody thought that- he wouldn't of been elected. Every wealthy person has detractors that are determined to bring them down one way or another- it's called envy and greed. They like to think that the only reason they aren't wealthy is the rich grabbed wealth they should have had... and they covet it, but don't know how to do it on their own. That's human nature. Sad. but real.
    The uproar over Trump has always lacked relevance to performance; always been primarily a personality dislike and focused on destroying him at any price- including the honor of democrats and the left, which they dropped like hot potatoes. That tells me it was never more than a facade. So rants from people at that level have never impressed me.

    Anyone that can't balance the picture can't be trusted to keep score. As a kid, I remember a pro wrestling show and the announcer, Russ Davis- who always referred to the referee as "blind Harry". This is because the scripted bias that was made to look like accidental oversight was just part of the show to fuel the emotions of the crowd watching a totally choreographed imaginary match. This is how the left looks at politics; it's all contrived to a plan. Orange man bad, nothing else is relevant. They fed that to you, you bought it without question.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trump is the first president in my memory to be attacked by both our Media and China.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We are watching Joe Biden unravel America. And Democrats are happy it is happening.
     
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    You haven't provided anything to refute except your opinion, which is driven by media nonsense.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    When I was a Democrat, we tried to back Kennedy by praising him.
    Democrats now can't praise Biden so they chat about Trump.
     
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    Certainly would be typical of the left, they think like ants- all running the same program. First, my own observations and conclusions are the most important me, as it should be for all people.
    And good is not quite the proper choice of words, because if you take that as being a good guy in personality, you include a great many failures. Good guys of that kind always finish last- and if you hire them to fight for you, you will finish last too. Trump was capable- Biden is more like a fart in the wind. Can't last long, and doing what he's doing, which is nothing right.
     
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    Uh, no. I appreciate the effort, but this has nothing to do with my point. I reject it completely because I asked you, not "everybody" and the post makes some broad based assumptions that I know are false, because I don't see things that way, and I am included in "everybody." The post fails on merit but it's irrelevant anyway.

    What we're discussing here is behavior, not performance. So far, nobody has complained about Biden's ability to communicate. If he were truly mentally deficient, SOMEONE WOULD HAVE SAID SOMETHING BY NOW. Ya think?

    Trump's behavior indicates a sick, dangerous man. Biden's behavior indicates difficulty with public speaking and a history of speech impediment.

    Have fun with the BDS though.
     
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    You have not been listening.

    Biden is functionally not able to be president.
     
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    Who in the heck is Alan Jones? Is he relevant? How?
     
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    That's false, but don't let me stop you from making things up.
     
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    One major reason for "conglomerated" agreements is that they have far more effect on the world as a whole.

    For example, with the advent of China and the problems their behavior poses we can have WAY more influence in insisting on the labor, business, environmental, and other law that we prefer by forming alliances with the major economic powers, especially in the region. That is far more impactful than this "mano a mano" BS or the economic nonsense of trying to effect that with tariffs.

    In general, business does better when there are rules that are followed by all. A one on one agreement may solve some specific problems with one trading partner, but corporations that buy and sell internationally don't limit themselves to one country. A mish mash of 1 to 1 trade agreements just doesn't do what a broader agreement can do.
     
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    American steel CONSUMERS didn't like it at all.

    And, there are far more consumers of steel than there are manufacturers.
     
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    Trump flip flopped on agreements he formed with Republican senators on policy direction on two of the most important domestic policy areas we have - health care and undocumented aliens.

    Foreign leaders have no choice but to deal with the US president, so I don't believe you have a strong claim there. Besides, it is the case that many foreign leaders have expressed what can only be interpreted as strong negative reviews of attempts to deal with Trump.
     
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    You would think it sucks if you were a "Globalist". America gave them all a free lunch for so long of course they have a concern. But America 1st earned their respect. Why else did they begin to pay their fair share in NATO?
     
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    but manufacturers, translates into jobs.
     
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    Exactly.

    US manufacturing is a MAJOR CONSUMER of steel.

    There is no comparison between the number of US steel consuming manufacturers and the number of steel producing manufacturers.

    Manufacturing in the USA was hurt by the increase in steel prices. Only steel producers were benefitted.
     
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    There IS a global economy. US manufacturers sell their products all over the world. In fact, companies like Boeing, Microsoft, Apple, and others sell more overseas than they do at home.

    Attempting to ignore the fact that there is a global market could not be more stupid. Besides, the US standard of living is what it is BECAUSE of the existence of the global marketplace.
     
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    I disagree with your last sentence. We are great because of individual liberty and innovation. If they want to steal that....they can pound sand. We don't need to compromise our values to appease them. If we are truly a light of freedom on a hill, they can try to be like us.
     
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    Did you ask yourself the same thing with Trump? I watched many Trump rallies. My comments were basic, and unchanging, "WTF is he talking about?" My ex, a Trump voter, would answer unchangingly as well, "I have no idea." This would be 90 minutes. Ninety minutes of unintelligible drivel. I suspect you never questioned Trump's obvious mental problems, so prove me wrong.

    "The world is tiny compared to the universe."
    -- Donald Trump

    "I walked into the room and said, 'who are these people?' I knew most of them."
    -- Donald Trump

    "I never understood wind."
    -- Donald Trump

    "You know, I know windmills very much."
    -- Donald Trump (30 seconds later)
     
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    So you are addicted to cheap government subsidized Chinese products. Screw American workers eh?
     
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