What do you think will happen in North Korea?

They've already donated 5 nukes. The only question is do they have the ability to deliver them. They could at least nuke South Korea and Japan. The whole situation is just a mess.

I, for one, think that bombing the **** out of them with everything we have as well as a decapitation strike on the "crazy, fat kid," is the best solution.

 

The US has tested well over 1000 nukes

I doubt they will unless they're backed into a corner. And even then, it would be batshit insane to do so. Every higher up in the North Korean military knows what would happen if they do.

So what you're telling me is, is that you want to create a situation that makes the refugee crisis coming from Syria look like a bunch of kids just got out for recess?

 

The best we can expect from the world is not to critisize too much the sacrifice of American people.

 

Kim is a scared brat that took power before he was ready due to his father's untimely death--and he has been murdering most of his relatives that could have helped him to rule rationally and well.

IMO China has a real problem on their hands and we should leave it in their hands. If N. Korea is foolish enough to attack the US or SK, we will have to defend ourselves as best we can and wipe out whatever hole Kim is hiding in...but hopefully he will grow up, wise up, lose weight and begin to act responsibly so none of that will happen.

A sea or ground war is not something we should contemplate, there or elsewhere.

 

DPRK kids chorus.

North Korean children playing guitars.

 

Agreed. china is not going to come to their aid this time because they will lose access to markets in south korea, japan, the US and most of the West, and probably large numbers of non-aligned countries who agree that the NK regime needs to go. china cannot afford at this time to lose worldwide access to its exports, this is not 1953.

 

Lots of saber rattling but ultimately nothing will change unless China sides with us (unlikely) or stays neutral.

 

Trump should issue the following statement to the NK military:

1) you have 24 hours to surrender, and all military/political official other than kim jong un will be amnestied. Only he will be tried for Crimes Against Humanity.

2) if you do not surrender, a military campaign of unprecedented size will be used to destroy the regime, its military and political assets, and there will be no amnesty for any senior officials captured.

That should solve the situation rather quickly.

 

Much depends on China. They don't want a free and united Korea with American troops on their border.
And they don't want all 24 million North Koreans streaming across the border as refugees in China.

But the U.S. has said North Korea won't be allowed to reach the U.S. with a nuke. We will prevent that.

I see nothing but war.

 

If they nuke Japan, I'll show up in person.
Otherwise this Brit doesn't want to get involved in it. I like the South Koreans immensely. But not enough to die for.
Will the UK get involved? In some way, if the US does, we will. Our forces aren't doing much right now.

 

What do you imagine South Koreans are doing to inspire North Korean retaliation?

http://www.newsweek.com/us-war-games-south-korea-missile-defense-ship-570227
Koreans of a certain age on both sides of the 38th parallel know their peninsula was ready to reunite in 1945 if the US had not objected.

 

I honestly thought the UK was done fighting a long time ago. Where are their troops now? Are they helping the USA anywhere else?

What an amazing history that country has. I, as an American, think that Britain has the most impressive history of any country and probably the smartest people on Earth.

I also think it's funny to watch WWII vids where the soldiers are drinking tea in their tanks and talking in those accents that are not the least bit intimidating. Compare this to the angry, shouting Germans.

 

Right now our air forces are right beside yours above Syria and Iraq and our troops are right beside yours in Libya training the locals. You can expect us to have covert troops inside Syria and Iraq, ground controlling alongside your own. Our navy is deployed next to yours in anti piracy operations off of Aden and we have had subs deployed off the coast of Japan for some time.

We are just about the only nation on earth that participates in more wars than yours does. We were also supporting the French for example in their Boko Harem campaign. Chances are we are supporting Saudi in Yemen too.
We sent troops to Ukraine same time you did. Also we deployed to the Baltic states alongside you in the associated build up around that war. I think we still have a deployment of some kind in Afghanistan. We have troops in Northern Ireland. The Falklands. I really couldn't begin to name all the places we have deployments in.

WWII tank crews were as brave as US bomber crews. Only 1 in every 50 survived. .

 

Absolutely nothing what so ever as far as I can see.
Refusing to be ruled by Kim Jong Un I expect.

When you start killing people, some historical story from the past doesn't impress me as justification for murder.
What the South Koreans are not doing... is bombing and killing North Koreans. Nor have they been doing so at any point in my life time. There is no justification for these actions that I am willing to accept as making it reasonable behaviour.

Just F off North Korea. They are not victims they are aggressors.
No one is killing them, no one is attacking them. They are killing others. Attacking them and killing them. It's not self defence.

 

Any invasion of North Korea would result in mass casualties on both sides, and more than likely some crimes against humanity committed by the US.

Not to mention we'd be looking at the most unpopular war in the US since Vietnam. The domestic response would be terrible.

 

The moment you explain to the public that NK is finishing the technology to enable them to reach the East coast of the US with an ICBM, that would pretty much convince the American people of the necessity of such a war. That they are also handing off such weapons knowledge to iran would also help sell the public on the need. My hope is that its NK first, then iran: cleansing the world of the scum of humanity is a good thing.

 

Only if they were seen to be losing.

In war the domestic response is always this. Seen to be winning =Yay!
Seen to be losing = Boo!

If a North Korean intervention goes like the last Syrian one did. Cruise missile barrage then done.
Joe Public will love that North Korea has been de-nuked for zero casualties.

 

I agree with you but like I mentioned earlier I think or hope we as people don't destroy potentially millions of people and what little infrastructure they have to deal with Kim. I'd like to see China do it but either them or us need to either clandestine or direct force remove the head of the snake. Preferably any known hyper aggressive generals with him. Then whoever is left gets a phone call. Explaining things.

If China does it they have more influence over the new Dictator, yes Dictator because barring an invasion there isn't going to be a Democracy short term

I could flesh out a dozen different scenarios but they all start with Kim gone

Only good things can happen for the NK people and that region at that point.

 

Well way to go.

I need to go to London someday.

Do the people of the UK feel any connection to the British Empire that ruled 1/4 of the world?

 

28,000 US troops in South Korea pose an existential threat to the North as Saddam and Gaddafi found out the hard way. What would you call nuclear armed submarines off the North Korean coast if not provocative?

 

I Google the phrase "North Korea" about every 10 minutes. I can't wait to search it and find some good news of American attack!

 

China and Russia are playing our presidency for fool, which it is.

Russia's goal is to become the big guy in the world politics. It knows that it cannot become the world leader, because the free world will never accept him as such. But it can achieve the status of the uncontested world bully. Then it can form an implied alliance with the goons, like N Korea and Syria, and rogue nations like Iran. If it succeeds it would be like a gang controlling your neighborhood. Putin is playing a puppet show, to entice our egoistic presidency to jump into fires like a moth. At the least, we will lose our leadership in the world. We will lose some of our prosperity, and possibly American lives.

On top of this the president has a given a free hand to our military, to hide his ignorance of military action consequences. When you have spent the years, required to become a filed commander, facing constantly the idea of death so closely, you naturally want to eliminate enemies, making you lean hard toward war mongering. That is why, at top of the command chain, we put civilian defense secretary and president. But, at present, our civilian command apparatus is empty.

China has become very capitalistic lately. It is after some gain. The postures are to appease our leadership temporarily, and fool it to achieve some material/commercial gain. When the chips are really down, we are not going to find China at our side.

Those leaders are too shrewd to follow a fool anywhere.

God help us.

 

The difference should be obvious to all. Existential threat vs actual threat.
North Korea regularly attacks South Korea. South Korea is able to attack back. It has the existential capability, but it has not done so in most peoples lifetime.

America is a real threat to North Korea. We get it. This fuels their paranoia and indeed this very real fear may be be played upon by it's rulers. Every year they show up and do naval practises of invading North Korea. In a re-run of how they defeated them last time. It must put the wind up them.

The question is, if America leaves Korea alone, will North Korea become peaceful, or just become free to invade South Korea?
I'm not certain, but I lean towards the latter.

 

Well unless China or Russia actually ATTACKS us, I don't think we have anything to worry about.

 

When you hope NK is going to be attacked, than you hope 10's of millions of people get slaughtered. Weird to read that you hope Iran is next. Iran... where the US supported that maniac of a Saddam to unleash a WMD war against? That Iran, where the US made a coup against the a democratic government?

Scum of humanity.... you don't say