What if the FBI recommends Hillary be charged with crimes. Would Obama pardon her?

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  1. conservaliberal

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    Obama has wasted no time in rushing right out and endorsing Hillary Clinton for president even though she is the subject of an FBI criminal investigation. If the FBI recommended that the Justice Dept. indict her and bring her up on charges what would Obama do? There is a lot of speculation about this already and some people think he would pardon her and her aides too to keep them silent.

    Obama has already stuck his neck out and entrusted his so called Third Term to Hillary. She would be the one to carry on with his legacy. But would he really go that far to interfere with justice and the law?

    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/06/07/hillary-clinton-and-fbi-primary.html
    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog...don_hillary_if_the_fbi_refers_to_justice.html

    It's hard to figure this one out because one group has the opinion that she did nothing wrong and that she won't even be charged. The other opinion group thinks that she broke many laws and she must be charged and that is what would force Obama to pardon her. What do you think?
     
  2. Lesh

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    What if the moon is made of green cheese?

    Oh wait...it's not and discussing it would be stupid?


    Oh...
     
  3. Spooky

    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He can't pardon until she is convicted.

    However he can force the DOJ not to prosecute.
     
  4. Pycckia

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    Yes he can. Ford pardoned Nixon.
     
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    Day of the Candor Well-Known Member

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    I think you are right. He would have to wait until she is convicted and that would really screw up her run for the White House. So instead he will probably just get the Justice Department to drop the whole thing.
     
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    What if...green people started eating purple people...would the President pardon all green people???????

    Yet another conservative wet dream thread. Please just clean up after you are done.
     
  7. Belch

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    Ford pardoned Nixon for any crimes he might have committed, so it's possible for Obama to do the same.
     
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    TRFjr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    wrong Ford pardoned Nixon before any conviction
     
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    If granted after a conviction, it removes the penalties, and restores the person to all his or her civil rights. However, a pardon can never be granted before an offense has been committed – because the president does not have the power to waive the laws.
     
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    The deal with Ford's pardon of Nixon is that acceptance of the pardon was an admission of guilt, therefore the offense had already been committed. Obama could do the same for Hillary, and I'm sure she'd have no problem admitting she broke the law if it means nothing happens to her.

    The problem for Obama is that it would be the crowning achievement of an already tattered presidential legacy. He would be pardoning an admitted criminal and endorsing this criminal for the presidency.

    Can even Obama stoop that low? I know the democrats won't care, but there has to be some shred of decency left in the man that might cause him to reconsider leaving the white house in such complete disgrace.
     
  11. Pycckia

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    But in this case, Obama can pardon Clinton for any offenses that may have been committed already. Before a conviction or even an indictment.

    Just substitute Clinton's name for Nixon's and adjust the dates accordingly.

    Voila!

    - - - Updated - - -

    When did Nixon admit guilt? And for what offenses?
     
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    Accepting the pardon was a presumption of guilt. What specific offense? I believe there were a range of offenses involved with Watergate.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watergate_scandal

    However, armed with his pardon, there was nothing to charge him with. He could have turned the lincoln room into a torture chamber for hippies, and he would still have his pardon.
     
  13. Papastox

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    Would he really risk what little, if any, legacy he has to pardon a woman he loathes? If the situation was reversed, would she pardon Obama if she were president?
     
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    Of course thinking this administration would follow the law really is a wet dream.
     
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    He's pardoned her already. Behind closed doors. Nothing will happen during his presidency. Wouldn't be surprised if most of the evidence is already lost just in case she doesn't win.
     
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    I think....no, I'm POSITIVE Obama already knows how this is going to end and he's known all along. he also knows who sicced the FBI onto Hill and her emails/server..... the guy has not been left in the dark...he KNOWS what's going on and WHY it's happening......
     
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    I don't know, would republicans pardon Nixon... if so, then dems would probably do the same for a lessor crime of OMG... using personal email

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pardon_of_Richard_Nixon

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    Hillary will not be indicted
     
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    Obama can't pardon her till she's convicted. With the complexity of the case, even if she's charged it wouldn't go to trial till next year sometime long after Obama's out of office.
     
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    This much we know, Hillary's e-mail actions have brought forth an FBI investigation. Obama has now endorsed Hillary. Obama has the power to pardon Hillary if she is indicted. So we should just forget about the whole situation. But if Obama does pardon Hillary watch for him to gain a position with the Clinton Charitable Foundation. Obama will always have a sizable income via the Clintons.
     
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    Exactly.
     
  22. Stevew

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    That is a GIANT LEAP to a conclusion I wouldn't bet on. A lot can happen/change before the statute of limitations end.

    Steve
     
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    If you think that it is so far fetched that Obama would pardon her then how do you explain the fact that Obama just jumped right into this whole scandal and endorsed her without any hesitation even though there is an active FBI criminal investigation going on? You may want the investigation to be a chunk of cheese but it isn't and it is likely to bite her right in the ass. Obama never was the brightest bulb on the tree and so he didn't stop to think that if she goes down now he goes down too. What about his wonderful legacy then?
     
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    President Obama was always going to endorse HRC. To suggest otherwise is nonsense. There is absolutely 0 proof that there is any on going criminal probe into HRC. The FBI was asked and are doing a security review. That is all that is known. President Obama will not need to pardon HRC because she will not be charged with anything.
     
  25. Stevew

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    You haven't been paying attention.

    Quoting, *After months of staying silent surrounding the investigation, FBI Director James Comey told Fox News Wednesday that he doesn't understand what "security inquiry" Clinton is referring to. The FBI does criminal investigations and the investigation surrounding Clinton's personal server, on which she kept and transmitted top-secret, classified and human source information, is no exception.

    "I don't even know what that means, a 'security inquiry.' We do investigations here at the FBI," Comey told Fox News' Catherine Herridge, reiterating Clinton will not be receiving any kind of special treatment.

    Read more:
    http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiep...ary-keeps-talking-about-isnt-a-thing-n2161616

    I can give more proof if needed, from the White House press secretary last week. It is also informative to know that the FBI has assigned over 100 agents to Hillary's case, so I seriously doubt they are chasing windmills. They obviously think a criminal investigation isn't a waste of time.

    Steve
     

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