What is a woman?

Then nothing does and the word is meaningless according to your statement.

According to that "sense" what is a woman?

That only determines what kind of sex you like, it doesn't change you from a male to a female or vice versa.

Medical science recongnizes the reality that there are men(males) and women(females). There are medical fields for each, for instance a man does not go to an ob/gyn. We have several "women's health centeres" where a Levin or a Thomas would not go to seek medical attention no matter how they made themselves look.

 

Human beings.

 

Why do you need your statist politicians and bureaucrats to dictate to an American what his gender identity is, despite his obviously intimately knowing what it is far, far better than do they?

Why do you think your statist politicians and bureaucrats have an understanding of the matter that is superior to that of credentialed medical experts in gender identity?

 

Why do you have to fallaciously claim my position is based on some politician or bureaucrat? I am the one citing science and medicine.

Try again to respond to what I ACTUALLY posted

Then nothing does and the word is meaningless according to your statement.



According to that "sense" what is a woman?



That only determines what kind of sex you like, it doesn't change you from a male to a female or vice versa.



Medical science recognizes the reality that there are men(males) and women(females). There are medical fields for each, for instance a man does not go to an ob/gyn. We have several "women's health centers" where a Levin or a Thomas would not go to seek medical attention no matter how they made themselves look.

 

You appear to support ideological politicians and bureaucrats, with no qualifications in the matter whatever, imposing gender identity, rather than respecting an individual's acknowledging a personal reality concerning which that individual is uniquely aware.

Such intrusive statism is repugnant to anyone who respects the freedom of people to be themselves.

Gender identity is an inner sense of being male, female or somewhere in between, regardless of physical anatomy.

Variation in gender identity is a normal part of human diversity, the American Academy of Pediatrics, or AAP, stresses in a new policy that outlines how to provide supportive medical care for transgender youth.

There are maximal statists who are fanatical about their politicians seizing power over climatology, genetics, epidemiology, hellbent on dictating their dogma in a number of scientific disciplines in ways that contradict the science.

 

I didn't see your posting your idea of what a woman is, in your OP. I had only been joking but, if quoting a website, is the best that YOU can do, maybe it is time to be hangin' up those spurs, partner.

 

I have several times.

Woman = the female of human species

Now what is yours.

 

You seem very bad at trying to stereotype other people so you can assign positions to them and then argue those positition rather that those of the other person.

I'm not asking about pretending to be the other sex. What is a woman and be specific.

A woman is a specific being and identity is anything you want to be regardless of reality.

As I asked before if a Ukraine 24 year old man who pretends to be a woman showed up at the border of Poland trying to leave the country and told the guards I'm a woman, and they knew who he was and that he was in fact a man do you think he would be allowed to leave and should he? Say it was Lea Thomas and he was in fact a Ukraine. Should he be allowed to leave?

 

Why are you obsessed with politicians and bureaucrats when the opinions of sex and this gender game on this board are coming from the average Joe public person?

Biology and nature has nothing to do with politicians.

 

Well, as for many things, the definition would depend upon, for what purpose one was using it. But, if we are looking for a biological definition, of course yours is accurate; I doubt there is any dispute over that.

 

What is the month of the woman? Is it like the year of the rat?

 

WHERE is the month of the man? Are we just rats?

 

To define a woman.

Why is this like pulling teeth? It's a simple question. I gave you a clear concise indisputable answer as to my position. Why do some seem to struggle?

As I have asked if a Ukraine 24 year old man who pretends to be a woman showed up at the border of Poland trying to leave the country and told the guards I'm a woman, and they knew who he was and that he was in fact a man do you think he would be allowed to leave and should he? Say it was Lea Thomas and he was in fact a Ukraine. Should he be allowed to leave?

 

I gave the same definition as your, extremely basic (biological) one. Hence, logically, if you see "struggle," in my reply, that would apply to your own definition, as well. How could you not recognize that?

Bluesguy said: ↑
I have several times.

Woman = the female of human species

Now what is yours.

Yours, is a terrible example. First of all, what makes you think that Polish authorities are only allowing in, women & children refugees, from Ukraine? I would think that is a completely false stipulation.

Secondly, choices as to who Poland allows to cross their border is, obviously, their decision, in which I have no right to assert my voice; I get no vote, in that matter.

But what you have done there, at least, is give a CONTEXT, for your question (for which I had originally asked); i.e., what do you consider a "woman," for immigration purposes-- do you see that? So, for example, for some very lonely guys, in terms of sexual partners, a woman's role, is assumed by a sex doll. That does NOT mean that I consider sex dolls to be women-- very clearly, but I feel I should probably make sure you don't jump to that ridiculous conclusion-- just like, for some women, a "man," is sometimes defined as a vibrator. But for your unelaborated term of just, "a woman," the most basic, biological definition, would seem to be the only one that could be applied, without the responder needing to impose his/her own conditions, to refine your general term.



P.S.-- Above is a very thorough explanation, for you, of a very simple concept-- far more detailed, in fact, than your own, personal description of a "woman." So I will NOT be going over this, with you, again. Therefore, if you are still unclear of my meaning, please go to the top, & just repeat your reading.

 

I'm so tired of this bullshit.

If you're born with a dick and then later get a set of fake tits, that doesn't automatically make you a woman. You're just a dude with a set of fake tits.

End of discussion.

 

It's not complicated.

Why are you asking me what I already gave you and you quoted?

See what I mean, how you have to complicate a very simple question. Which is determine by a very simple answer. Is the person trying to cross the border and avoid having to fight a woman and can cross or a man? Being a man or a woman is NOT situational. I won't even go near your trying to compare dolls to real people you have gone so absurd with that one. I gave you a real life situation, bottom line one. What's your answer, would he be allowed to cross the border and not fight and should he be in your opinion? Or are you just going to very thoroughly try to dodge again?

Cut to the chase what is a woman?

 

What you propose IS NOT "a real life situation" -- that is the real "bottom line." Are you telling me that you can't come up with a single example, applicable to the real world?

Here are some examples: for women's professional sports, what is a woman? In an intimate, personal relationship, what is a woman? For the purposes of a medical study, what is a woman? When it comes to the type of prison facility, in which a convict is housed..? In public restroom policy...? For the state to designate "female," on a citizen's driver's license, what is a woman?

Note that these different circumstances, have different answers. So you are incorrect: the answer can be conditional. Some biological women, for example, would be generally excluded from medical studies, because of health issues. So, for that purpose, they would not qualify, as being "a woman." Or, in the instance of another person's private life-- whom they consider "a woman," is none of my concern, or my affair; it is not really an issue that lends itself to public debate & judgement.

I already answered, and you quoted it:

DEFinning said: ↑
Well, as for many things, the definition would depend upon, for what purpose one was using it. But, if we are looking for a biological definition, of course yours is accurate; I doubt there is any dispute over that.

 

So if your dick gets cut off, you are no longer a man. Got it.

 

Thats what these sorts did with my marriage rights. They sprinkled some magic straight cisgender dust on the definition of 'marriage' and poof!

 

In your father's time, it wasn't a response to idiosyncratic 'whim', it was convention. If you can't see the difference, we can't really have a meaningful discussion about this.

When a child is led to believe that they can indulge any whim which overwhelms them (and childhood is pretty much wall-to-wall overwhelming whims and urges .. children are nowhere near capable of understanding the dangers of self-indulgence), they are being set up for failure.

 

1) Yes it does. We're slaves to our mammalian programming - make peace with it, if you can.

2) Survival is what drives the 'repression' you speak of as a bad thing. Only the most hubristic and privileged societies can afford to fete individualism. It's a curse, not a blessing. The First World is currently paying the price for this hubris, in case you hadn't noticed.

3) Certain branches of medicine in this Age of cultish politics, are more closely aligned to voodoo than to science.

 

"Gender identity experts"?

Medieval monastic scribes were once considered experts on science.

 

And it has NOTHING to do with anyone else. If you have personal problems with adjustment to reality, no one else is obliged to participate in your symptoms. Just as we don't indulge the symptoms of other diseases - especially psychiatric diseases. That would be a very cruel and irresponsible thing to do, obviously.

 

Okay. And?

What context in human endeavors?

 

This wriggle room created to fudge the issue is a false construct.
A woman is someone who can conceive, carry and give birth to young.
She retains all the necessary things to be able to do that including menstruation, hormones and the physical body parts necessary.
It is so throughout nature.
These things are what gives her an identity, a personality and a purpose.
The rest is superficial to being a woman.