What is a woman?

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  1. crank

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    This isn't about birth defects, Love.
     
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    What is the context?
     
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    The biological state has far more impact on our essential being, than that. A day or two spent watching land mammals, and any thought that gendered behaviour is a 'construct' is quickly abandoned.
     
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    Meantime, a woman is an "adult human female".
     
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    She's still female.

    It's not about our experiences, it's about our biology.
     
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    DEFinning Well-Known Member Donor

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    Well if you haven't figured that out by now, partner...it seems a bit late in the game.
     
  7. Maquiscat

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    I already see a major problem with this study to start with. The success of reassignment cannot be a comparison of the suicide rate to the general population. The comparision has to be between pre-transition and post-transition. If post-transition transgender suicide rates are 20X higher than the general public, but the pre-transition rate is 40X higher, then it becomes very obvious that transitioning helps. Not bringing down the suicide rate to within population norms doesn't mean that the treatments are not working. They might not be working as well as we would like them to, but it's still better than not working at all. When we started develop treatments for AIDS, at first all we could do is suppress the symptoms. Since we were not curing the disease itself, should we have stopped doing it? As long as deaths went down, that meant we were doing good. Now we are within reach of a cure, if we don't already have it.

    Oh and that second point is why many of the transgender community advocate for no surgical changes before adulthood. The community is actually divided on the blocker issue. But in the end, very few are advocating for hormone use early, and it does not harm a child to allow them to present as they feel.
     
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    The claim was made that such an experience was defining, and I was calling out on it.
     
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    A woman is one of the 32 different sexes identified by liberals.
     
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    O.M.G
     
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    It can't be, because we all have different experiences. EG, I gave birth the old fashioned way (out the hoohah, no pain relief), and breastfed. Many women do neither, or do variations on that. I've never had debilitating period pain, but plenty do. I have small boobs, so no clue what big 'womanly' bouncers feel like. Etc etc.
     
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    Ditto. Us humans can only observe nature. Nature split species into two, one having the reproduction organs and egg to develop offspring, and the other to pass DNA on in the form of a seed to fertilize said egg. We simply call the first "Female" and the second "Male". I found this particularly helpful when I went out to find a partner to settle down with and have kids. Not much point in a bloke meeting someone who identifies as female but keeps her testicles in a pickle jar. Anyone who wishes to do that, go for it, I don't think they would be classed as the majority group.

    So by all means identify as anything as you wish, just don't forget nature chose for you when you were conceived. And the percentage of people born with organ abnormalities is miniscule.

    Anyone not wanting to reproduce, their choice. It means their family tree comes to a halt.
     
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    Sorry mate but you have rejected exactly what a woman is.
    She can bear children.
    As a woman you would understand that fundamental detail.
    The rest is either a guess about how being a woman feels, or a useful ignoring of what makes a woman a woman.
    It is kind of basic biology.
     
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    Stone age people had much stronger bones than we today. Are you implying that humanity has evolved backward? :D

    BTW, it's our brain that made us king of the jungle. Many animals are physically much more powerful than humans. But this is a (hu)man's world. :)
     
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    In my father's time, all boys were in dresses up until about 5 or 6. Are you saying that was harmful? What is the harm in a child wearing what they want and playing how they want regardless of their sex, and otherwise presenting how they want? What actual damage does it do? Evidence please. Keep in mind I am saying free of blockers, and hormones and surgery. So don't strawman to that as others have in the past.
     
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    Genders. They are still acknowledging that save intersex conditions there are only 2 sexes. The claim is that gender is different from sex.
     
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    Over-identification with the opposite sex may produce homosexual tendencies in children. It's just a guess on my part.

    IMHO society should encourage boys and girls to find their natural sexual identities. It's never good for kids to become a pervert. Even if homosexuals are no longer criminalized today, they don't have an easy life! :(
     
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    You impose biology upon personal psychology via State dictate.

    An individual's self-identity is not controlled by the pronouncements of politicians and bureaucrats.

    It would be as if left-handedness were made a crime because absolute conformity was requited by the State.
     
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    Myth.

    I'm at a loss with the pervert label in the context of the overall statement. Rephrase please?
     
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    Anyone interested in biology are welcome to study nature. Anyone interested in the many theories of the human mind are welcome to study psychology.

    There are two biological sexes. Also, there's the gender game which is a play on words. The majority are contented with their bodies given to them by nature, the minority have the psychological issues with their silly game, a game they feel they must constantly twine about to the majority.

    But that's the current state of affairs, governments are bending over backwards to legislate against the majority to accommodate the minority, in many areas of society.
     
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    Biology does not dictate any individual's gender identity, nor does the State.

    An individual's personal sense of having a particular gender is not controlled by your politicians.

    Lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, intersex, and associated identities have been present throughout history. All cultures have included, with different degrees of acceptance, those who practice same-sex relations and those whose gender, gender identity, and gender expression test current norms. Not everyone accepting people with diverse gender identities results in discrimination against them. Throughout history, there have been repressive regimes that have attempted to impose total conformity to a profile that does not respect the individual, nor does it reflect reality.

    Medical science recognizes the reality. Some politicians deny and attempt to control it.
     
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    Correct, gender is just at purely a play on words, thankfully, I'm in the majority group and I don't partake in the silly game, I'm mentally contented with my biological make up, my mind is in agreement with my physical body.
     
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    If you need to deny medical science, so be it. Again, I defer to gender identity experts, not statist politicians.

    Politicians with no expertise in climatology and epidemiology whatever, attempt to impose their ideological dogma in lieu of actual experts. That these maximal statists would try to dictate gender identity as well is hardly surprising.

    Fortunately, I am as well, but am secure enough not to advocate tyranny by the majority in forcing the minority to conform.
     
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    Isn't nature a bummer that it won't play this stupid word game, neither will the sane.
     
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    I figured it out long ago and posted it here in this thread, is this best you got?

    I'm asking YOU what is a woman and be specific.
     
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