Syria hit an F-4 aircraft yesterday, due to it passed to Syria border between 8 and 15 milles, for few minutes. Aircraft fall down to Mediterranian. I am aganist to my goverment for Syria stratedy. Europe and USA force Turkey to enter Syria to occupy on the other hand Russia and China is aganist for such a occupation. Sure in Syria there is a dictatorship by Esat familiy and Syria is garden of Russia. However in Syria many people support Esad family... On the other hand while in the wrold more bloddy countries and dictators why USA and Europe is so sensitive on Syria? Why Turkey participate in such a scenario. All event to destroy Russia-China-Syria-Iran block in the area. And USA and EU want to use Turkey on this target, Turkey have nothing to win from this war except to have more enemy in the area. http://www.news.com.au/world/syria-...wned-turkish-jet/story-e6frfkyi-1226406942913
the same thing is happening with syrian armed opposition groups who fight current government as pkk is with turkey , only different is US and the hypocrite west call pkk a terror org while calling syrian ones "liberators" bcoz they suit their 'own policies best" .
PKK is s separatist organization which targets civilians that makes it a terrorist group. While syrian opposition groups are also ethnic Arabs and they don't claim separation and they only fight against Syrian forces.
i have a better question , can Turkish alawits press your government on this subject or they are powerless like any other minority (except kurds)?
Anatolian Alevians are not connected to Arabian Alevians. In Turkey majority is aganist to a war in Turkey and beleives that an operation aganist to Syria is not business of Turkey. Big majority beleives Turkey don't have to keep a side in this event. However west is pushing Turkey to occupy Syria otherwise nobady care about the Syria.
Apparently the CIA last month was talking about testing Syrian air defences in preparation should the NATO have to invade Syria. People are saying that the Turkish plane was on that mission to test the defences of Syria and was shot down. They were talking about it tonight on TV too in a debate.
What is happening is that they try to lure Turkey into the Syrian internal conflict to expand this Middle Eastern conflict to Europe's border (Greek border) The Roman, the Britts, the German, and today the US military is there, always western counties have had their armies/military out there over the last few thousand of years. This conflict will not end until people stop it. But they keep voting and thus give away their power, and that can lead to dictatorships and/or empires, and more problems. Voting changed Germany into an empire last century, and is again going to happen if people keep voting in large numbers (and they do, watch Russia and France politics, nearing absolute majority of votes behind singles parties), this time most western and middle eastern countries (people are lured into traps called politics and elections) Voting is what is changing history. Not voting can't change anything, because system has no more power, means they can't push forward their imperialistic agenda. People must all become independence from 'their' governments, indepence of energy and food and housing and transport (and have own local medias and newspapers and banks)
This comment also mentioned in Turkish press as the first reaction, because the plane was F-4, ''F'' means fighter and in radar systems this aircraft seen as a Fighter plane. However F-4 aircraft is one of the crab aircraft in Turkish army. It is in use for training flights, it doesn't have any gun on it. This is a question mark; While there was a risk like this why Turkey goes there with an old fashion aircraft which also seen as a fighter but far away to be a fighter aircraft? Also plane passed the border 2 times, first one was mistake so what was the second time? Another comment was on the press; This plane is involved to record the ''Russian Zone'' in Syria where is close to border. Because this aircraft is equipped with old fashin but log distance capacity cameras. Anyway i beleive if there weren't a secret reason at the back Turkey would give much more different reaction on it. I saw ''Erdogan'' when he gives first speech on TV live, he was so silence and controlled who is normally uncontrolled and nosiy man...
I guess Erdogan is under pressure to play the role of cop in Syria , Turkey has nothing to win from this .
They ain´t better. They use the cities and civilians as shield and are not willing to displace the battles out of the cities. Syrian forces hopefully crush those foreign payed and incited criminals soon. Turkish jets must not fly into Syrian airspace and it is really a fail of Erdogan to make an international scandal out of it. The F4 was equipped with reconnaissance equipment.
+ Syria unrest fuels local tensions in Turkey http://english.alarabiya.net/articles/2011/12/10/181770.html
This was a trap attempt by NATO to try and justify military action against Syria. But again, Russia warned them against it. Russia and possibly China is the only thing preventing NATO from attacking Syria. I wish Turkey would take a neutral stance, or try to get both opposition and Ba'ath to settle this diplomatically, like they did initially. Turkey does not need a war, and neither does the region. This F4 incident, along with supporting Syrian rebels in Turkey will not help bring peace for the Syrian people. Erdogan can't sacrifice Turkish lives for US and "Israel" interests. And Turkey has no benefit going to war with Syria. These two countries used to be strong allies, now look... Sad to see Muslim countries manipulated so easily to hate eachother. We all need to wake up.
I'm not really sure why you are making a "religious" thing out of this? Hence the reason I disliked your posts. Turkey has been a member of NATO for about half a century.
Because when it boils down to it, the Syrian civil conflict is a religious conflict wrapped in a political one. It is primarily Sunni VS Shia all over again. Saudi and Qatari Sunni support the Sunni rebels, Iran Shia supports the Alawite government. And Turkey is a Sunni majority country which happens to be involved in the conflict. The political part comes from NATO involvment and a war, with "Israel", against Iran after Assad is removed.
