Yes. the Romans did pen them up for 3 months because they were raiding the countryside and killing other Jews.. But there were no remains .. of suicide.. no skeletons.. just a dozen or so skeletons presumably Romans.. and lot of pig bones .. The skeletons were buried according to Jewish rites in sacred ground as Masada heroes. It was quite a scandal back in the day. - - - Updated - - - What year was Yadin exposed as a fraud? I think its been several decades...
You mean of course when Ben Yehuda, a man which you support, called Prof. Yadin a liar? in 2002. If you would read what I wrote to Marlowe about Ben Yehuda's claim, you would recieve your answer about the character assassination of Prof. Yadin that Ben Yehuda did.
The Sicarii was a group whose name came from Sica, a small dagger members of this extreme group used to hide underneath their robes and assassinate their opponents in Jerusalem and elsewhere. Eventually, because of their ruthless nature, assassinations and terror, members of this group headed by Elazar Ben-Yair escaped from Jerusalem to Masada (it is unclear exactly when, or how, the Sicarii took control of Masada). This escape took place before the Roman army put a siege on, and in AD 70 destroyed, Jerusalem. That conquest entailed burning the temple and butchering the inhabitants. Josephus describes how the Sicarii on Masada would not come to the help of the besieged in Jerusalem; how they raided nearby villages, including Ein Geddi (where they murdered 700 women and children and robbed their supplies). As the Roman army was crushing the revolt, advancing from north to south, more and more Jews were drawn into that revolt, with tragic results. The Romans were systematically destroying any resistance. After the fall of Jerusalem, not much was left. It took the Romans some time to decide to crush the last three fortresses that remained unsubdued: Macherus, Herodion and Masada. Masada was the last. Although we do not have an exact date, somewhere between the end of AD 72 and early AD 73, the Romans moved their 10th legion (Fretensis) against Masada. The siege probably took about 7 weeks (Roth 1995) and Masada fell on the night of the fifteenth of Nissan (Xanthicus). Prior to that, Ben-Yair made two speeches to his Sicarii begging them to commit suicide so as not to fall slaves to the Romans. Out of the 967 rebels on top of Masada, 960 killed one another and 7 hid themselves and survived to tell the story. Contrary to his description of the Roman siege around other fortified targets (e.g., Jerusalem, Gamla, Yodfat, Macherus) where the Roman army faced fierce resistance, no such resistance is described around Masada. The implication is that the Sicarii, so adept at assassination and terror, lacked fighting spirit when it came to face the Roman army. Neither did they resist the Roman army for three years nor did they stage a last stand battle but preferred suicide. Even a Biblical Samson end (that is, kill oneself together with one's enemies), was not considered. http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/biblianazar/esp_biblianazar_56.htm Science, on the other hand, is aimed to reveal truth, distinguish it from falsehood, and ranks the issue of validity very high. In fact, science should protect us from getting entangled in our own mythology, from actually confusing reality with fiction. Yadin used the cloak of science to support a myth. As such, it may present a unique form of deviance: falsifying interpretations not for the sake of a scientific theory, but for the sake of a national myth. By sacrificing truth Yadin also sacrificed science.
And how's that rejeceting what Prof. Yadin found in Massada? 1. Flavius describes in his book: "The Jewish War against the Romans", in Chepter 2 of the 6th book: In that example, you can see tha Flavius describes that even thse who fled to the Romans and didnt want to fight them, they were executed them. SO the Romans didnt left the Jews any other choice! 2. after the section which Flavius describes the execution that the Romans did he continue to describes in Chepter 2 of the 6th book: So as you can read, Flavius is describing in his book, ,that there were rebels in Jerusalem, and those rebels were the Sicarii, which were in Jerusalem, as in Massada and the rest of the fortresses. 3. Flavius is contiue to write in chapter 9 of the 6th book: So as you can see alot of people, even Sicarii (they were Jews), came to Jerusalem from all the land, which means that there were people that fought against the Romans that were not from Jerusalem. 4. Flavius continue to write in his book about the survivers after the fall of Jerusalem, in chapter 9 of the 6th book: 1. Flavius describes in Chapter 8 of the 7th book: As you see what Flavius wrote in his book, is parallel to the findings in Massada by Prof. Yadin, which he found synaguages and Hebrew script. 2. Flavius continue to right in this chapter: What Flavius wrote about Lazarus was found in Massada by Prof. Yadin!! Prof. Yadin found also Clay pieces with Hebrew names. That was the way which Lazarus decided to make him and all the res of the Jews die in Massada. The Jews in Massada, decided that all o the men of the families n Massada will kill their wives and their children and then kill themselves. SO basicely what you just wrote, strengthens what Prf. Yadin found in Massada. Prof. Yadin based the things he said about the excaition in Massada according to whole of the findings that were found there!! Prof. Yadin never lied about Massada, He said exactly what Flavius is describing in his book. Andof course, Flavius is refering his information in his book on the reports of the Roman army, that the emperor showed him. SO Prof. Yadin was right, and you just only reinforced his findings. I'm suggesting you to go read Flavius's book.
I'd suggest that we read and consider several other sources : its all out there : "Archaeology & Politics Herod's Hanging PalacesWhile Yadin made history at Masada, he also rewrote history to help a young nation find its place in the sun. Today considerable doubt has been cast on the initial findings of the Masada excavation. Many inconsistencies, as built up by Yadin, are causing intellectuals in Israeli to think twice whether Masada should be applied to Israeli society. As an April 1, 2001 Jerusalem Post feature states, “For the better part of two generations, the Masada myth was a symbol of fledgling Zionist enterprise; it now threatens to slip back into obscurity.” Back in the ‘60s, Yadin and his team found a collection of ostraca, or inscribed pottery fragments. Each had a single name on it, including one inscribed “Ben-Yair,” the family name of their leader, Eleazar. Yadin readily connected Josephus narrative of ten lots with these potsherds. But the lot consisted of eleven pieces, not ten as Josephus reported. Furthermore, over seven-hundred ostraca were found atop the mountain fortress, inscribed with single letters, women’s names, foodstuffs or priestly notations. It is more likely these fragments were merely part of the rebels’ rationing system for food. No single group of fragments can be taken as the lots cast on that fateful final night. Another inconsistency revolves around the “remains of the last defenders.” Initially Yadin held out little hope of finding any of the skeletal remains of the final Jewish defenders, given that a Roman garrison was stationed on the Masada summit for some thirty years after its conquest. He reasoned the bodies would have been disposed of in one way or another for sanitary reasons. Yet during the excavations a south side cave below the cliff revealed the “stark sight of skulls and other parts of skeletons scattered in disorder about the floor.” Yadin put the number of human remains at twenty-five and later claimed, “they can be only those of the defenders of Masada.” In 1969 the Israeli state arranged for a full military burial of these remains in Jerusalem. Before his death in 1984, Yadin admitted he was pressured by the Israeli government to make that connection, even though the cave contained pig bones among the skeletons, a common sacrificial burial practice for Roman dead. Masada is increasingly being understood as part of that “modern dance of politics and archaeology.” Archaeologists understand they are interpreters, rather than just restorers of a pristine past. As a 1993 Learning Channel show on Masada stated, “Every archaeologist is in a sense a myth-maker, contributing by his discoveries to the creation of a shared, national story of the past.” ===== "Heroes or Traitors? While many still cling to the “Masada Myth,” other Israeli scholars regard Masada “as a cautionary tale of bloody-mixed extremism, which should be maintained on the margins of Jewish consciousness—if at all,” claimed the Jerusalem Post. Israeli sociologist Nachman Ben-Yehuda believes that Yadin’s portrayal of the rebels at Masada as “freedom fighters” and “patriots” was a far stretch. In 1995, he released a book entitled, The Masada Myth: Collective Memory and Mythmaking in Israel. Ben-Yehuda claims the pre-state Israeli pioneers falsified and fashioned Josephus’s Masada story into “a powerful myth of heroism.” Whether by underground organizations, youth movements, the military, archaeological teams, mass media or tourism, Ben-Yehuda shows how the Masada narrative of Flavius Josephus was edited and augmented to become an ideological symbol of defiance for the modern state of Israel. The Hebrew University professor also claims the portrait of Jewish heroism at Masada was never provided by Flavius Josephus. “On the contrary,” Ben-Yehuda writes, “The narrative conveys the story of a doomed (and questionable) revolt, of a majestic failure and destruction of the Second Temple and of Jerusalem … of different factions of Jews fighting and killing each other, of collective suicide (an act not viewed favorably by the Jewish faith) by a group of terrorists and assassins whose “fighting spirit” may have been questionable.” He further adds, “Josephus speaks of various Jewish groups who took part in the rebellion, among them the Zealots, but when it comes to Masada he mentions only one group—the Sicarii.” Named after the Greek word for dagger—sica—the first-century Sicarii were religious fanatics notorious for assassinating moderate Jewish leaders and rabbis opposed to the revolt against Rome. In one instance, Josephus describes their killing 700 Jewish women and children in supply raids on Ein Gedi, a detail tellingly absent from the Masada visitor center. Behind the Texts Bandits, Prophets & MessiahsLike Ben-Yehuda, Richard Horsley claims the true defenders of Masada were thugs and assassins. A classics profess Read more :http://jaygary.com/masada/ btw - was - Josephus at Masada, ? If not, then his account is dubious at best. /
Prof. Ben Tor mentioned it in his book: Prof. Ben Tor is continue and writes: Here what Flavius wrote in his book "The Jewish War against the Romans", in Chapter 8 of the 7th book: What Flavius wrote is the exact thing which Prof. Yadin discovered at Massada. Prof. Yadin found also Clay pieces with Hebrew names. That was the way which Lazarus decided to make him and all the rest of the Jews die in Massada. The Jews in Massada, decided that all of the men of the families in Massada will kill their wives and their children and then kill themselves. SO basicely what you just wrote, strengthens what Prf. Yadin found in Massada. And Yet this is not contridact what Prof. Yadin discovered at Massada. Prof. Yadin discovered those skeletons and near them was a remains of a shield, something that you are not mentioning!! Archeaologists in Israel found alot of non Jewish places in Acre, Tiberias etc. SO does those findings are fake as well? if not so you are hipocrate! Let us explore it: What does Josephus tell us about the events in Masada? Nachman Ben-Yehuda, an American Sociologist, cannot bash Josephus Flavius, because of the simple fact that Josephus was the emperor's writer, the Roman one yeah?, and before Josephus were placed by Flavius, the reports of the Roman army, and according to that he wrote what you are mentioning as "The Massada Myth". Mythical Masada 1. Prof. Amnon Ben-Tor was mentioning the nerrative that Ben Yehuda was using in his book "Back to Massada": 2. Ben Yehuda is speaking about a myth, and yet Prof. Ben Tor mentioned it in his book also: Prof. Ben Tor is continue and writes: 3. in the link you were referring me Ben Yehuda wrote there that he exmined the historical nerrative of Massada with: SO basicley according to Ben Yehuda, the one you strongley soppurt, exmined an historical site with children's literature and movies, he exmined it in tour books as well, and yet you are a soppurter of him about Massada, you are supporting people that exmine history with children's books. HE DEBUNKED HIS OWN CLAIM WITH THAT SENTENCE ONLY!! The archaeological excavations 1. He wrote in that part about the 3 skeletones that were found in Massada, and yet he didnt discribe about the location, and because of that only he cant assume anything about the claims of Prof. Yadin. When you are mentioning some archeaological finds you need to describe the location that those were found and not to published half facts!! with half facts you cant assume nothing! 2. Ben Yehuda wrote also that the archeaoligists were disscused about the findings of thes same day and to overlap the findings of that day with those of the days before. So he said that in those disscusions they: But what he didnt mention, that the archeaologists overlaped the findings that were discovered until the day of the dusscusion, so they could change their claim because a new discovery can change the whole story of the site. OR as Prof. Amnon Ben Tor wrote in his book: ONCE AGAIN BEN YEHUDA DEBUNKED HIS OWN CLAIM!!! Finale Let us finish it with qouting Prof. Amnon Ben Tor from his book: And how does it contridact what Prof. Yadin discovered? I already answered you that, once again: PLEASE READ WHAT I GAVE YOU!! DONT DISSMIS SOMTHING WITHOUT EVEN READING IT (like with the Quran).
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I dismissed it coz your interpretation of Quran passages was distorted/false. ========== Back to Masada :# "In his writings, Ben-Yehuda has explained how, in an effort to create the myth, Gutman altered a number of details of the story recounted by Josephus. Gone, for example, was the presence of the Sicarii a cruel, extremist group of Jewish zealots along with Josephus account of a massacre at nearby Ein Gedi. In the 1960s, when Yadin wrote two books about Masada, he chose to refer to the Jews under Roman siege on the mountain as zealots, but did not mention the extremist Sicarii (meaning dagger men) at all. It was functional and very important in the 1940s, Ben-Yehuda explained. There is no people that does not have myths of heroism, and for many years Masada served as our myth. The status of the myth changed over the years, and in large part the magic of Masada as a heroic myth was lost. The turning point occurred after the Six-Day War in 1967. The war granted the Israeli public access to sites such as the Western Wall and the rest of the Old City of Jerusalem, as well as sites such as Gamla in the Golan Heights and the Tomb of the Patriarchs in Hebron, which took Masadas place. Archaeology wars Archaeological excavations were carried out at Masada long before Yadins group, but the scope and effort, and particularly the duration of the dig carried out under Yadins direction, were without precedent. It appeared as if, in the early 1960s, the entire country had been mobilized in the archaeological undertaking. The dig would scientifically either verify or dispel Josephus account. The excavations lasted two digging seasons from October 1963 to April 1964, and then again from December 1964 to March 1965. Hundreds of people participated, including a large number of volunteers from abroad. Today, researchers are in agreement that Yadin came to conclusions that reinforced the overall picture portrayed by Josephus. ( repeat : :Before his death in 1984, Yadin admitted he was pressured by the Israeli government to make that connection) Some experts say the problem with researching the site stems from the fact that Yadin did not approach Josephus account with a sufficiently critical eye. In a few instances, they say, Yadin even cut corners to get the archaeological finds to fit Josephus account. Additional excavations were carried out at Masada in 1989, under the direction of Prof. Ehud Netzer of the Hebrew University, and in 1995-1997 by Netzer, Guy Stiebel and Gideon Foerster. According to Yadin Roman, the editor of Eretz magazine soon to publish a special issue to mark the 50th anniversary of Yadins Masada dig more than 5,000 foreign volunteers worked at the site over the years, in addition to a similar number of Israelis. There are currently two researchers at the center of the archaeological controversy over Masada Haim Goldfus and Benny Arubas, who have argued for years that the Masada story has been distorted. Many people, Goldfus maintains, choose not to look reality in the eye. The Masada story as told by Josephus didnt really happen that way, Goldfus insists, claiming that Josephus himself was in Rome when Masada fell. In reality, a different [series of] events took place at Masada, and apparently there was no war there at all, says Goldfus. There is no evidence at all at the site of blood being spilled in battle. The famous battery [at a site commonly referred to as the Roman ramp] couldnt have fulfilled the role attributed to it in breaking through the wall, because it was too narrow and small and couldnt have been used by the Roman army to position a battering ram. In light of the finds in the area where the [Romans] broke through, we understood that nothing happened there. There are no arrowheads, as one finds at other sites. There is no evidence of fires. The indications are that the battery structure was mostly naturally occurring. In addition, he continues, there are no mounds from walls that had been destroyed, or other evidence of a battle. Goldfus says he has no interest in either dispelling the Masada myth or confirming it. I am also not claiming that [the Jews at the site] didnt commit suicide. Maybe it did happen. Perhaps the Romans entered the site in a commando raid, but for 50 years they have been portraying a false picture of a heroic battle that didnt take place. In reality, other things happened there, and I dont know what they were. ( dispute amongst archaeologist - Huh ?) A national mission David Mevorah, a curator at the Israel Museum, thinks the timing of Yadins excavations at Masada the most popular tourist attraction in the country for which an admission fee is charged is the key to understanding the myth. In the early 1960s, the site provided a major national story, and Yadin knew how to harness the national aspect for his needs. There is no other site at which so much has been invested, with the assistance of the army and government. Yadin, a former [Israel Defense Forces] chief of staff, turned Masada into a national mission, and into a lot more than another archaeological research project, says Mevorah. Yadins greatest success, adds Mevorah, lies in the fact that, coming after Gutman and with Gutmans help he knew how to make the site connect emotionally. People come because of that. Of course, there are also patriotic, national and machoistic elements, says Mevorah. Following all of this, major investments were made in infrastructure, site development, construction of a cable car, a guesthouse and a museum. Like many others, Mevorah gives credit in managing the site to Eitan Campbell of the Israel Nature and Parks Authority, who has run Masada National Park for a dozen years. Campbell acknowledges that previously it was hard for him not to get upset over the claims of those who would undermine the classic Masada narrative, people whom he viewed as heartless provocateurs. Now though, he says, its different. Ive understood that controversy is good for the site. It keeps us on our toes, inquisitive and up-to-date. Development of the site is the thing closest to Campbells heart. And when it comes to this, too, he is well aware that the issue has sparked controversy and differences of opinion. There are a large number of visitors here, and we have to provide them with basic facilities. We came in for major criticism when a McDonalds branch was opened here, but its important to make clear that we are absolutely not Disneyland. ==== . IMO Its nothing to do with , truth/ historical facts - its a good revenue earner, like Yad Vashem Museums . . " There's no business like fooling the gullible public " :
The name "Britanium" was mentioned by the Romans, or if you want me to be more precise so it was used by Julius Caeser. Like the name of London those days was Londinium. The ending of word with "ium" is the ending in the Latin language! It wasnt a interpretation of mine, but what was written in the Quran, exactly!! I've already showed you what was written in Surah 9, with a wider look, like you wanted, and yet you dont have nothing to dissmised it!! And how's that contridact what Prof. Yadin discovered at Massada? Massada is a fortress, the 3 skeletons were found inside the fortress and near it was peices of a shield. 1. you are sppurt people who exmine history with Children's books? very serious!! 2. Myths cant be proved!! and Prof. Yadin didnt try to make the myth a fact. 3. it doesnt contridact what Prof. Yadin found at Massada. It doesnt contridact what Prof. Yadin discovered at Massada. What Prof. Yadin discovered at Massada rainforced what Jusephus wrote! PLEASE READ FLAVIUS'S BOOK!! The large number of volunteers from abroad that participated in the excavition at Massada, just rainforce that the findings are relaible!! I never said that Flavius was at Massada! furthermore, he rely when he wrote his book, on the reports of the Roman army, after the emperor showed them to him! So know you are saying that Flavius was right? good to know you are agreeing with me! You just wrote: Please be more consistent with what you are saying! dont contridact yourself!! What you just wrote is rainforcing what Prof. Yadin discovered and Flavius wrote!! What Flavius wrote is the exact thing which Prof. Yadin discovered at Massada. Prof. Yadin found also Clay pieces with Hebrew names. That was the way which Lazarus decided to make him and all the rest of the Jews die in Massada. The Jews in Massada, decided that all of the men of the families in Massada will kill their wives and their children and then kill themselves. SO basicely what you just wrote, strengthens what Prf. Yadin found in Massada. So now Goldfus is agreeing with the discoveries which Prof. Yadin found? good to know!! This is just rainforcing what Prof. Yadin discovered!! So now you are saying that the numbers of dead Jews in the Holocaust are fake? accroding to Eichmann you are wrong. Eichmann said in his trial that according to the nazi's pepers, the number of the dead Jews were 10 million and not 6 million.
Wrong - Did you mean: britannium ? See google : https://www.google.co.uk/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GGNI_en-GBGB503GB504&q=britanium+ ================== Acasa - Britanium Residence in Cosmopolis - Un alt stil de ... www.britaniumresidence.ro/ Translate this page Britanium Residence. Alegand apartamentele Britanium, beneficiezi de toate avantajele ce stau la baza conceptului de calitate britanica : stil de viata, siguranta, ... Britanium.com — английский с умом! | ВКонтакте vk.com/britanium Translate this page Britanium.com - это виртуальный репетитор, который решает самую важную проблему всех изучающих язык. Он дает вам эффективную стратегию и ... Уроки английского на Britanium.com - ключ к успеху ... britanium.com/english_for_success Translate this page Хотите быть успешным - изучайте английский язык онлайн на Britanium.com! Нужно выбрать тему для изучения английского языка: Бизнес, Знакомство, ... Английский язык онлайн на Britanium.com. Изучение ... britanium.com/ Translate this page Английский язык абсолютно бесплатно и не выходя из дома через Интернет! Вы можете выбрать тему обучения, и получите различные материалы для ... О проекте - Britanium britanium.com/about Translate this page Britanium – новое слово в изучении английского языка онлайн. Вам больше не нужно тратить время на поиск полезных для Вас материалов. Теперь все ... Изучение английского языка - Britanium britanium.com/english_online Translate this page С чего начать изучение английского языка онлайн на сервисе Britanium.com? Необходимо зарегистрироваться и выбрать тему английского also : https://www.google.co.uk/search?sou...BGB503GB504&q=britanium+#q=britannium&spell=1 Correct Etymology "Britain" comes from Latin Britannia~Brittania, via Old French Bretaigne and Middle English Breteyne, possibly influenced by Old English Bryten(lond), probably also from Latin.[1] The earliest known written references to the British Isles derive from the works of the Greek explorer Pytheas of Massalia; later Greek writers such as Diodorus of Sicily and Strabo who quote Pytheas use variants such as Prettanikē, "The Britannic [land, island]", and nesoi Brettaniai, "Britannic islands". The modern Welsh name for the island is (Ynys) Prydain. This demonstrates that the original Common Brittonic form had initial P- not B- (which would give **Brydain) and -t- not -tt- (else **Prythain). This is best explained as containing a stem *pritu- (Welsh pryd, Old Irish crúith; < Proto-Celtic *kwritu-), meaning "shape, form", combined with an adjectival suffix. This leaves us with *Pritania. It has been speculated that the name of the island probably derives from the demonym of its inhabitants, which would be *Pritanī, singular *Pritanos, modelled on Latin Britannus, -i. It is further popularly supposed that this demonym may refer to some practice of body art or tattooing. Such a practice, however, is only dubiously attested and in any case not until at least the time of Caesar, two hundred and fifty years after Pytheas first documents the name. The interpretation therefore remains uncertain. = I'm tired - might look at the rest of your twaddle tomorrow . G'nite ....
The Latin word is "Britanniarum Regnum", and from that name came the word "Britannia", according to the Hebrew Encyclopedia.
The non-Jews of Palestine were guarunteed full protection of their rights by the Mandate for Palestine.
Today is special... I agree with you for the third time... the minorities are getting nearly free education for 20% of the Israeli Universities are made of Arabs... they also get free medical, the Israeli Arabs are the wealthiest in the Middle East, the healthiest and the most educated.
the Palestinians get free medical, free education? bull(*)(*)(*)(*) and you know it. they are treated like untermenschen.
You keep asking the same question year after year.. Do you think the answer will change? The Palestinians are those people who have lived in Palestine for over 2,000 years.. generation after generation.
they are becoming marginalized and will probably disappear and filter into Egypt or Jordan over the next few centuries. it would be better conditions than living in Gaza no doubt!
AGAIN for the umpteenth time the nomenclature <PALESTINIAN> was opted for by Arafat and Nasser in 1964... Arabs used the Ancient Jewish territory as a convenient short cut in their travel with their camels, sheep and donkeys looking for pasture from Egypt to Syria to Iraq to Lebanon and back... that does not entitle them to be called a people until 1964 when Arafat opted for this designation. You can give your own version of <Palestinians> as much and as long you want.... this is an open Forum that does not in reality check for historical equivocations... so shoot from the hip to your heart content... The only pleasure I derive from all of that is that nothing you have tried to propagate here so far is of any real historical value.
I am Israel [video=youtube;b4gymxY2zM8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4gymxY2zM8&feature=youtu.be[/video]I am Israel
Present day "Israelis " are NOT descendants of biblical Israelites . Before the influx of European Jews + establishment of the Zionist state - the inhabitants identified by the village/town of their birth /residence - within PALESTINE . ZIONIST OCCUPATION IN ANY PART OF THE HOLY LAND IS HERESY AND CRIME http://www.corbisimages.com/images/...e=67&uid=d5f4b62c-ccf8-4330-a061-60f01be04a22 [video=youtube;2vvYlNz-n3I]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vvYlNz-n3I[/video]
In 1200 AD there were TWO Jewish families in Jerusalem... All the lies and Zionist propaganda don't alter the facts.
cORRECT - and in 1187 Jerusalem was liberated by Saladin and allowed the Jews to return. THen In 1267 the Muslims of Spain sent Rabbi Moshe Ben Nahman to Jerusalem to revive the Jewish religion. . By 1572 under Muslim rule there were reportedly 115 Jews in Jerusalem and by 1688 that number had increased slightly to 150. However following the Zionist movement in Europe, the city's population soared in the late 1800s to some 50,000 with about half that number being Jewish. But even in 1854, Karl Marx, then a journalist with the New York Daily Tribune, reported that the Muslims in Jerusalem were the masters in every respect; virtually all the land in the Old City was owned by Arabs, even in the Jewish and Christian quarters .
Some Jews who were expelled from Spain relocated to Hebron which was 100% Arab.. and they relocated without incident.
