What is Ron Paul's plan for the US Navy?

Umm I guess you missed the Patriot Act, Home grown Terrorism Act, Defense Authorization Act and the outright powers of the Executive Branch to label people as Unlawful combatants then Assassinate them.

 

Well I think its safe to say that unless your a terrorist you haven't lost any civil liberties but if you have examples of this being a major problem with normal Americans than please feel free to share them with us. As far as I can tell, all your rights are still in place and being defended daily in courts all across America.

 

Try brushing up as to what those Acts entail and look at what Amendments they step over completely. It's quite similar to our debate with Congress Authorizing Conflicts but, not Declaring. Why don't they simply remove Amendments from the Constitution? I guess it's better to simply name it "Patriot Act" "Home Grown Terrorism Act" and "Defense Authorization Act" to make them appear against the Terrorists but, they're used against innocent Americans.

Also what about TSA? Another Department created that is given the ability to step on the Constitution for our "Protection".

 

Because Congress doesn't need to get rid of the amendments to authorize these acts. The constitutionality of them has been tested in the courts and they have been determined to be valid. The constitution is allowed to be modified by the Congress as long as the Supreme Court upholds the action. It was designed this way by the founders on purpose. I still am waiting for your examples how any of these acts have been used against innocent Americans in a way that shows they are being abused.

 

Hopefully he will close all the bases, bring all the ships home and cut the number of carrier battle groups in half (and mothball the rest).

It's time a) America minded it's own business and b) let the world police itself for a change...do you hear that South Korea, Israel, Taiwan, NATO, Saudi Arabia, etc.? Clean up your own messes.

If they get in over their heads - then call America to come to the rescue (like WW1. WW2, Korea, Gulf War).

 

As long as your ready to go to their defense than I would have no problem with this strategy at all. Would save us a ton of money.

 

I'm not sure, create jobs in America? what's McRomneys plan for unemployed?

 

What an odd question. I don't know what his plan is for the Navy. I don't know what any of their plans are for the Navy. None of them have said.

I'm not gonna attempt to draw a conclusion from a lack of information as you have done in the OP, but I will point out that the Federal government is Constitutionally obligated to maintain a Navy and Dr. Paul is aware of that.

 

So...
Not one person has bothered to ask this guy for a source demonstrating that Ron Paul is, in fact, planning on gutting the American Navy?

 

We were able to send the US Navy all the way around the world over a century ago with no foreign bases.

Are you saying we can't do that now when we have nuclear ships with unlimited range?

 

Ships back then were in no way as dependent on support as they are today. With the exception of nuclear subs I can't imagine a modern ship staying out at sea for very long without some source nearby to have supplies brought in. A century ago you could pull over pretty much anywhere and grab some more food or water.

 

How could you do that when everything was owned by hostile empires?

And how exactly are coal powered ships with no refrigeration ability less dependent on supplies?

 

As for the OP, why would we cut our Navy down or get rid of our aircraft carriers?

You don't stop an invasion at your coast, you stop it in open ocean.

 

Which country(s) is going to invade America anytime soon via the ocean, in your opinion?

 

Good point I guess. Not my area of expertise so I will leave your question up to more wiser people

 

Invade or attack, either one. You can't stop a modern day naval attack at the coast anymore. Cruise missiles can be fired from 600 miles away. You have to stop the attack in open ocean.

As for attacking us from sea, China would have to attack Guam if they wanted to invade Taiwan.

 

The way the Navy was able to sail around the world back them without bases is the same way we would in the future: replenishment ships and oilers/coliers.

 

Yeah I was thinking about the massive supplies a carrier would go through just daily but hadn't considered replenishment ships. That would work I suppose.

 

You mean like these?


This is the real reason why the Americans are the only ones that conduct "blue water" carrier ops. It has nothing to do with bases all over the globe, it's because nobody else knows how to replenish a carrier at sea.