What?? Is Trump guilty until proven innocent?

Thanks Captain Obvious!

 

You betcha

 

He's legally innocent until proven guilty as far as the courts and the legal system are concerned. We are free to have our own opinions. The evidence is pretty overwhelming.

 

Wait......Jack Smith.......a member of the deep state cabal of baby eating, *******, Nazi, pedophiles seeking to impose tyranny on America under the auspices of an illegitimate government said that? Why would Garland pick someone like that to be the SC?

 

That was a quarter of a century ago. In the last 3 elections, Dems have netted more seats than their percentage of the vote, meaning they have out gerrymandered the GOP.

Kudos to you for looking it up. And Dems haven't been getting that many extra seats, it's been pretty close to the percentage split of the vote, but, the GOP did have to settle for the skinny side of the split in the 2018. 2020. and 2022 elections.

 

I know, it makes you mad...lol

 

What it means, is that the jurors aren't supposed to walk into the trial with their minds already made up that the defendant is guilty. Although, we know the jury won't be objective in any of Trump's trials.

 

I don't think that's quite accurate. If the jurors are well-aware of the evidence, it seems okay for them to have an opinion based upon that evidence like anybody, as long as they are still open to reasonable doubt presented by the defense. Jurors need to have an open mind, but they are allowed to think and know things.

 

The jurors haven't seen all of the evidence. They haven't heard all the testimony. The jurors have to base their verdict on legal standards, not what they heard on MSNBC. Sounds like you're ok with people being tried in the court of public opinion vice a court of law.

 

A court of law is government.

 

Doubling down on gas lighting is not debate or rebuttal, it's active measures.

 

I gave you the facts, if you would prefer to light gas, what is that to me?

 

Ironic post....facts and your posts here never meet.

 

Nope. I just disagree with you that they must be a blank slate going in. But they do need to be open to the totality of evidence as well as doubts raised by the defense.

 

Uh, yep...lol. Why do you think Jackoff Smith made that statement? It's because the jury shouldn't come into the trial with a preconceived notion of guilt and innocence.

 

They shouldn't go in with their minds made up. And the prosecution must meet the high bar of beyond a reasonable doubt. I think you're just trolling. There's nothing controverisal in my stance here.

 

Not controversial, just wrong AF.

 

Jurors needs to have an open mind. That's all. Can they be aware of publicly available evidence and have a starting point based on that? Yes. Should they be on the jury if they have already made up their mind? No. Might a prosecutor or defense attorney attempt to have them excluded if it seems they have a preconceived idea that is against their side? Yes. But starting with an opinion while still being open to further evidence is absolutely allowed.

 

That's exactly what I said and you were like, "nope"...lol

 

Nope was in response to: "Sounds like you're ok with people being tried in the court of public opinion vice a court of law." Guess I should have bolded it.

 

There is no patter of criminal activity. Second, the only thing you are doing is showing where the payments are going to. Not even the texts or emails shows any culpability. And no matter how many times you post this in any thread you want, it is still the same, PERIOD.

 

Is that what the DOJ investigation show? That was Comer's "reasonable suspicion" he uncovered.... Please share with us the DOJ investigation into Comer's findings..

Remember... Comer only has to uncover "reasonable suspicion" to meet the low bar of a DOJ investigation... he has went way beyond that...
Nancy Mace nails it on the head... she says just that....
""The DOJ needs to get off its ass and investigate... we've done the work for them so they can not screw it up now""

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/LmD-BH_Qt0Q
https://rumble.com/v2n1vsa-rep.-nancy-mace-doj-needs-to-get-off-its-ass-and-investigate.html

 

Where have you been over the last six years? Of course Trump is guilty until he proves himself innocent.