What should be done about "bad guys" that shelter among civilians?

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  1. Kode

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    Because by going down that anti-Palestinian, pro-Zionist path they created this entire mess.
     
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    We're observing a propaganda war against Israel. First 1400 civilians were raped, slaughtered, murdered, beheaded, amputated, baked in ovens and burned alive, while Hamas' top leaders repeatedly asserted that they will do this again and again and again until all of Israel is destroyed and everyone there is either dead or driven away.

    As Israel responds to these crimes against humanity, 'Hamas and its megaphones abroad also blast Israel daily for retaliating for the October 7 butchery of some 1,400 Israeli infants, children, women, and the elderly.'

    Ask yourself this question:
    • Hamas surrounds itself with civilians as human shields to deter Israeli forces from attacking them, and if that's a sound tactic to deter aggression; then why doesn't Israel simply surround itself with civilians to deter Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad?
    'Hamas's apologists insist that Israel warn in advance civilians to keep clear of Israeli bombs.'
    • Can you show me where they demand that Hamas warn Israel's civilians before their daily launches of rockets into Jewish cities? Does 'the international community lecture Hamas to first drop leaflets or text Israeli civilians that Hamas rockets are on their way into their vicinity?'
    Hamas started the conflict by sending death squads of 2,000 killers into Israel at a time of peace to surprise murder more than 1,000 Israeli civilians.

    'There was no precivilizational, unspeakable atrocity that the butchers did not commit --torture, beheading, rape, mutilation, and necrophilia.'

    'The terrorists were followed into Israel by a multitude of opportunistic Gaza civilians, who in turn joined in the violence and looting.'

    'Back in Gaza crowds reviled and tried to harm Israeli captives bound as hostages to trade for jailed terrorists in Israel.'
    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2023/11/03/one_sick_war_150003.html
     
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    'In its mass murdering spree of October 7, Hamas butchered more than 30 American citizens, and perhaps another 13 still are unaccounted for -- and are likely hostages inside the tunnels of Hamas in Gaza.'

    'Yet the Biden administration has not forced Hamas to return kidnapped Americans, much less responded to its killing of U.S. citizens.'

    Does that concern you?

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2023/11/03/one_sick_war_150003.html
     
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    Lets take away the emotion that is so prevalent with people when it comes to Jews and Palestinians, and instead just look at each side as an unknown entity.

    So your solution to Party A brutally attacking Party B, is to arm Party A so that Party B does not attack them.

    Does that honestly make a lick of sense to you?
     
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    Waahington attacked a military base, not civilians.
     
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    The Palestinians are complicit with Hamas. They allow Hamas to use and stockpile weapons in or under or near their homes, schools, and hospitals and they seem to be OK with that.
     
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  7. Kode

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    Yes, but how do we “force them” or “respond”?
     
  8. Kode

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    Have you polled them? Has anyone polled them? Or is this all a matter of assumptions?
     
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    Hamas must die.

    Jews Are Tuning in to Fox News for the First Time.

    'Democrat politicians and pundits have long claimed that Fox News is the media home of racistsexisthomophobicantisemites, and a lot of Jews took them at their word.'

    'Then 10/7 happened, and Jews were shocked to see that people who they thought were allies in the social justice and political world turned out to be raging anti-Semites.'

    That had to have been a shock, on the heels of the shock of the 10/7 slaughter by sub-humans.

    'This included many in the news media, where the MSM places a lot of emphasis on the horrors of living in Gaza and argues that Israel is being too aggressive in rooting out Hamas. There have been exceptions, but they are so few that they actually surprise you.'

    'So something odd has happened: Jews are turning to Fox News because it has not spent the past few weeks accusing Israel of genocide.'

    Greater Clarity.

    Too Many Dems Are The Hamas Party.

    'You may have already seen Dick Durbin demanding a ceasefire, with no preconditions and no demand that Hamas release its hostages.'

    'Alexandria Piranha-Grimace attacks the Israel PAC AIPAC, calling the Jewish group “racist and bigoted” and “extremist”'

    Too many Dems see 'Jews as just New York Money Men and Oppressors and Colonialists and they no longer have a place in the woke, racist, savage Democrat Party.'
     
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    Well, it is being done, isn't it? Show me evidence where the Palestinians have tried to put a stop to it or have given the Israeli's intelligence info on it. If Palestinians want to be taken seriously then they need to work with Israel.
     
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    If Israel wants to be taken seriously and have the protests stop, then they need to work with the Palestinians. And it long overdue after the endless offenses committed against the Palestinians.
     
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    Kill them all and let Gos sort them out? :eek:
     
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    I feel more comfortable speaking my mind and not caring if the politically correct left likes it or not.
     
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    You don’t work with people. You work with their government. Right now their government is Hamas. So you’re telling Israel they need to work with Hamas? How exactly do you envision that happening?
     
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    Meanwhile Israel is telling the Palestines to get the hell out of the way as Israel has the rightful intention of burying Hamas, as they are essentially the ruling body of the Gaza strip, and have proven themselves to be so evil that they, Hamas, has no place in our world.
     
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    That does not explain-- in fact, contradicts-- your reaction to my reply-- which was, of course, merely my speaking of my own mind. Again, that is how a debate forum works. It seems you might be happier, in an echo chamber.
     
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    Nothing. Destruction is parallel to the threat. Party B threatens to eliminate Party A, so Party A has nothing to lose.
     
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    You fail to recognize that this site is not defined as a debate forum but rather a place for discussion, period.

    You and others constantly try to change that. Good luck with that.
     
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    I do however gather that debating is where is it’s at when kicking another’s ass. I just prefer to speak my mind while knowing others are on the same page.

    Debating with the likes of the advisories who oppose the fundamentals this nation was founded with can be an never ending debate, and I have better things to do.
     
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    Bill Maher Explains Once Again Why Liberals Are Idiots for Siding With Hamas.

    'The segment became something of a history lesson, as Maher listed how Martin Luther King, Jr. cited Henry David Thoreau’s Civil Disobedience as the compass of the civil rights movement; the United Nation’s Universal Declaration for Human Rights has its roots in Rosseau and Voltaire; and how John Locke influenced the protections codified in the Fourth Amendment. Maher quipped that left-wingers would dismiss Locke’s ideas and legacy as too old, too white, and too dead. '

    'Hamas had ruled the Gaza Strip with an iron fist for 17 years, and there are no laws against spousal rape, homosexuality is punishable by death, child brides are typical, and honor killings are the norm. These are the values that the Left thinks are admirable. And no, Israel hasn’t colonized anything. Jews have historical ties to the land. The State of Israel was created by the UN in 1947, with almost every nation voting in support of it. Maher quipped that the Left doesn’t know this because it’s not mentioned at drag queen story hour. He also said that the only area Jews have ever colonized is probably Boca Raton.'

    'Maher lamented how Western civilization has become the ‘white people ruin everything’ class, with a forced curriculum on African and Middle Eastern studies, which he noted was never taught writ large because there wasn’t much regarding course material. That’s not to say you can’t have courses on this material, but the application involves reading “queer poetry of the African diaspora instead of Shakespeare.”'

    Maher always seem to be late to the party, but at least he finally shows up.
     
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    Takes one to know one…. seems Maher might not be such a dumb-****….? Interesting.
     
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