What should be subsidized besides health care?

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  1. ECA

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    As I said already, not in favor of govt run universal Medicare for all healthcare.
     
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    Right, because no person has any right to force another to provide him health car. We agree on this.
     
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    There you go. There is always a way out.
     
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    Yep. Break the old social bonds and form new ones. Like divorce and remarriage.
     
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    Huh? Could you please rephrase the question?
     
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    Except that isn’t why I’m against single payor govt run Medicare for all healthcare.
     
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    Okay. Billy and Bobby ask Bubba to demand protection money from Seth. Why would Bubba have any right to demand protection money from Seth?
     
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    Okay, but no person has any right to force another to provide him health care. We agree on this, right?
     
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    Who’s forcing someone to provide him health care?
     
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    I don't know.

    But we agree that no person has any right to force another to provide him health care, right?
     
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    So then no one is forcing someone to provide them with healthcare. Then your question is moot. Next?
     
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    Not moot. It's a philosophical question. A political question.

    We agree that no person has any right to force another person to provide him health care, right?
     
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    I give up..... why?
     
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    I only deal in reality. If no one is forcing another to provide them with healthcare then as far as I’m concerned your question is moot.
     
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    So you can't explain why. Got it.

    Obviously, Bubba has no right to demand protection money from Seth. Because no person has the right to demand protection money from his neighbor.
     
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    A concrete example would be Medicare. Abe is being forced by Bill to give money to pay for Carl's health care.

    But we've agreed that Bill has no right to force Abe to provide health care, right?

    No person has any right to force another person to provide him health care, right?
     
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    And you can't either. so.... again.... you had no point....

    What's this thing about wasting my time with stupid questions and no point? Let's see if next time you first make a point, and then ask the question.
     
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    Okay. Billy and Bobby ask Bubba to demand protection money from Seth. Can you explain why Bubba has any right to demand protection money from Seth?

    I will help you out and say that my point is that Bubba has no right to demand protection money from Seth.
     
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    Point: No person has any right to demand protection money from another person.

    Question: Okay. Billy and Bobby ask Bubba to demand protection money from Seth. Can you explain why Bubba has any right to demand protection money from Seth?
     
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    What does "demand protection money" mean? You mean like the mafia? Of course nobody has that right. It's illegal!

    See? If you state a point, we save time. I don't know how any of that made us any smarter.... but at least it saved time.
     
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    No. I mean no person has any right to demand protection money from another person. Do we agree to that?
     
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    If you mean like "mafia protection". Of course! How many times must I say it: It's illegal!

    How is that even a "point"? It's in the law!
     
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    No.
    The point is: No person has any right to demand money from another person.

    I hope that is clear enough for you.
     
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    What is not clear to me is the great profound question...

    So?
     
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    So this is a discussion board. The question I have posed is whether any of person has the right to demand money from another person.

    Do go ahead and discuss.
     

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