What to think about what is going on in College campuses...

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  1. Space_Time

    Space_Time Well-Known Member

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    Just what we need:
     
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    Space_Time Well-Known Member

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    They'll probably downplay this as metaphorical:
     
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    This is not nor should be presented as an attack on Judaism. It must focus on Netanyahu and his polices. There are many Jews not only in the US but Israel as well who are very much against what he is doing. He will be voted out and he will go to prison for his other crimes that are on hold while he is in office.
    It is possible and preferable to be both pro Palestinians and pro Jews.

    Israeli soldiers return to Israel.
    Fixed borders established.
    Hamas resurgent forces surface and make a public military rather than underground.
    Make Jerusalem an independent third nation.
     
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    Does protester also demand US not send offensive weapon like Brady tank in Ukraine? Or Ukraine has the right to retaliate Russian attack and kill innocent Russian?
     
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    Great. Than Bibi should send negotiating team to negotiate.

    Does Palestinian government in Gaza , Ismail Haniye, leader of Palestinian government in Gaza aka Hamas’s leader wants two state solution?
     
  6. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    They don't have to. The conditions to all weapons sent to Ukraine require that they only be used for defense. IOW, they can't be used for offensive attacks outside of Ukraine. And they most definitely CANNOT be used against civilians. Protesters demand we impose the same conditions on Israel.
     
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    I don't know... My best guess is that probably no more than Bibi does. But it's the ONLY solution to the conflict. So they'll both have to learn to live with it.
     
  8. Endeavor

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    Understood.
     
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    Oh you don’t know. great.

    So here are information you need to know .. HAMAS doesn’t believe in two state solution. Hamas charter is “ river to sea , Palestine will be free” means complete annihilation of Israel.

    You want Israeli government to sit down with people who wants complete annihilation of Israel.

    And then you wonder why , people like me, don’t pay attention to what you are proposing.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Actually, that's irrelevant. You asked what one specific person wants. I know Netanyahu has SAID that he doesn't want a two-state solution. I don't know what the leader of the Palestinian government wants. But I don't NEED to know. Because, if the conflict is to be solved, that's what he's going to GET.

    I want the leader of the Israeli government who wants the total annihilation of Palestine to sit with the leader of Palestine in Gaza who wants the total annihilation of Israel (let's not split hairs, please)... Yes! Don't you?

    Because people like you don't pay attention is why there are protests... To FORCE you to pay attention. Or, at least, to force the people who make decisions.

    Protests make "not paying attention" a little bit less comfortable....
     
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    Hamas wants total annihilation of Jews is irrelevant?

    This is why people like me don’t pay attention. As I have said, in this world there is no room for antisemite.

    So let them chant “ River to sea “ all day long. No one give a f***!


    IDF just stared operation in Rafah. Great news. Hope that last until every Hamas is behind bar.

    But hay , if misguided kids on campus wants to chant “ river to sea” , let them.

    My only concern with these kids, they will sit at home in November because they care about terrorist Hamas then US democracy.
     
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  12. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    No. Your claim that it's information that I "need" to answer the question you asked is irrelevant.

    You paid enough attention to participate in the thread. But what's important right now is that the people who can do something about it pay attention. And I think the protests are accomplishing that.
     
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  13. Endeavor

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    You don’t have to answer. We have been reading your post since Oct 7.

    You want Israel negotiate peace with Palestinian Government /Hamas who wants complete annihilation of Israel and Jews around the world.

    Sorry , that is not going to happen. Kids on campus can chant all day long .. but the weapon will flow from US to Israel. No one give a f*** what few kids chant.
     
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    I don't know the future. I commend them for trying. And for pressuring our government to do the right thing.

    We might need that energy when Trump attempts to become a dictator.
     
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    I really don't understand you. You know this forum is not Fox News or MSNBC - here is difficult to lie about what anyone said, because he/she can correct it, so why did you censor my post suggesting I didn't focus? And it is not the first time you are doing it.

    Well, let me repeat what I wrote:

    Why people in Sudan can wait, people in Syria can wait, people in Yemen can wait, Rohingya Muslims in Myanmar can wait and many others suffering people in the the world can wait and only Palestinian CAN'T wait?

    OK, I was only joking, I know that victims of Jews have special rights which other victims don't have.

    There are 2 ways to stop suffering of Gaza people:
    1. All world, including people of Gaza will demand that Hamas will release hostage and:
    a. abend its plan to convert Israel to Muslim Caliphate
    or
    b. leave Gaza
    2. We will strengthen terrorist organization which on Oct 7 committed genocide murdering 1200 Israelis, raped women and kidnapped men, women and children and promised to repeat such attacks - by forcing Israel not to fight with this terrorist organization.

    I am not sure which option to chose - what you will chose?

    BTW - you don't have to answer, I think I can guess it.
     
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    Well .. I see one after anther antisemite thread open in this forum, so yea , I read and reply. But those who makes policy for USA, they don’t give a rat a$$ what few collage students say. Only thing few thousands collage students accomplished is canceling commencement ceremony for their fellow students who worked hard for 4 years.
     
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    The minute you start talking about Sudan, Syria, Yemen.... in a thread about innocent people being slaughtered in Gaza, you tend lose my attention. Ok... let's see what that has to do with ANYTHING...

    Ok... so it was a joke. Still a waste of time. Maybe if it were funny....

    I've already said it again and again: I chose a two-state solution.

    Oh... ok. Another joke, then...

    You should try to brush up on your comedy. I was right the first time... not much substance in your post. But, worse than that, your jokes weren't even funny. I should have stopped reading when you said "Sudan".
     
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  18. Golem

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    Really? I haven't seen any. I guess I probably missed them. Or skipped them. I do tend to ignore racist propaganda.

    I think they changed the narrative.

    You know who else got their graduation interrupted? Children in Gaza whose schools have been destroyed by Netanyahu using weapons that WE provided.

    Students that will now have to go through the unpleasantness of receiving their diploma via WhatsApp might now start paying attention. And some of them might realize that their discomfort is not as serious as the discomfort of those children to whom WE helped ruin their lives. That is a lesson for them that by far exceeds anything they would learn at a commencement ceremony.
     
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    Those children in GAZA could have graduated from school if their elder brother and father didn’t join Hamas and fired rocket toward Israel.

    You are right student who has to go thru unpleasantry of WhatsApp to receive their deploy , they will realize that less then 1% of their fellow students are “ terrorist love” and in America there is no room for Terrorist Lover.
     
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    Mandela was called a terrorist also. If the good folk in europe had stopped supporting him after that designation then south Africa would now possibly be run by white europeans.

    iSay possibly because it's speculation to assume the Zulu would have had enough strength to overcome the Afrikkkaners and their western backers, which included Israelis, who helped Afrikkkaners develope nuclear capabilities.

    Would you have preferred south Africa do have stayed in apartheid?
     
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    Hogwash- again.

    First of all- I seriously doubt those protestors are really dedicated to the "cause they calim, and are rather dedicated to - acting out and rebelling against the norm. Not a sign of wisdom or maturity.
    Second- they are protesting to the wrong people in the wrong place.
    Third- this is a kind of blackmail, attempting to use the impact of disruption to force others to comply with their demands. That is effectively criminal in nature. They are obstructing, damaging, hurting others.
    They should- every last one of them, be expelled, lose any scholarship benefits, are permanently banned from the university grounds, and that should be recorded in their educational history.

    These aren't people seeking to solve problems- they are people seeking to act out and cause trouble. The right answer from the universities- You're OUT. The right answer from law- is you are under arrest, and you pay the bill for damages of any kind related to your actions.

    We didn't see them protest after Israeli women and children were slaughtered under the plan and order of the Hamas government of Gaza. These are NOT adults and NOT honorable people.
     
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    What to think about what is going on in College campuses...

    Somebody is trying to tell me what to think. Sounds like Rush Limbaugh who used to do that.
     
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    these are the youth, like me, the only ppl not fully brainwashed yet by the white supremecist ideology that permeates western society.

    It's most likely a case of these protesters listening to independent media outlets, on social platforms, that have highlighted that it was in fact the IDF that murdered Israeli women and children whom were slaughtered under the plan and order of the netandyahoo government of Israel, under the controversial Hannibal directive
     
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    A comparison to the blood libel:
     
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    I think you are right – instead bringing arguments and looking for solutions, we just can have fun distorting opponent’s posts, so let me try ‘discuss’ your way:

    Well, let me explain you - victims of Jews have special rights which other victims don't have.

    Yes, this way of 'discussing' is much more fun!
     

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