What to think about what is going on in College campuses...

So the alternative is for Israel to keep accepting more Israel casualties so there are fewer Palestinian casualties and not create more terrorists.

If Israel was more competent, what would you expect them do?

Why don't you condemn Hamas who is the basis for all this conflict?

 

I agree that there should be negotiations leading to a two-state solution. But not with Hamas. Not while they have power over Palestinians. The atrocities they perpetrated and celebrated make the idea of negotiating with them a non-starter. The power Hamas wields over Palestinians has to be ended. Only then can serious negotiations be undertaken. You mentioned "reality". This is reality.

 

The alternative for Israel is in the part of the post you DIDN'T read.

 

Did not post does not mean I did not read it.

The reason I did not post it is because I have addressed it numerous times already Hamas wants a one state solution. Their goal is for Israel to no longer exist.

 

It should be with the PLO. But everybody will need to be sitting at the table.

The ONLY way to end it is with them sitting at the table to negotiate a two-state solution. There is no other way. And the negotiations might even include turning in those responsible for the October 7 attacks... who knows... The alternative is to continue the cycle. And, in the end, that may be what happens. After all, too many innocent palestinians have been killed already so.... who knows if it's already too late. But THAT is how it ends. Be it today, or be it after ANOTHER terrorist attack 10 or 20 years from now by some NEW terrorist organization.

Somebody in this thread pointed out that the protests at College campuses started before Israel's attacks on Gaza. They were right! THAT would have been the perfect moment to do this. Or not long after that. It would have saved not only Palestinian lives, but probably the lives of many hostages. But the more time it takes, the less likely negotiations will be likely to succeed.

 

If you had read it you would have not needed to ask.

 

Unfortunately, this isn't true. I could give examples, but the mods would delete my post. You should research this more before making false statements and then saying you'll ignore someone for speaking the truth. There are people who have been asked a million times to condemn Hamas, but they have repeatedly refused while constantly condemning Israel.

These protest groups are funded by some of the biggest individual donors to the Democrat Party. The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation has recently stopped funding them after some bad press. However, other major Democrat donors continue to bankroll these groups. These protests are coordinated and funded.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/...s-columbia-university-funding-donors-00156135

 

You must not have read the rest of my response since you did not respond to it.

 

I have never seen a mod delete a post for quoting an active post. So no... you DON'T have examples of anybody here who justifies Hamas.

 

I don't remember if I read it all or not. I usually stop when I see a question that was answered in the post that the poster is quoting.

 

While Israeli government, Palestinian government, USA, Egypt, and some other Arab nation negotiating ceasefire, the Palestinian government was firing rocket towards Israel.

And you want us only to focus on what Israeli army doing in Gaza?

Newton’s third law says “Every action has an equal and opposite reaction”.

If Palestinian government stop attacking Israel, Israeli government will stop attacking Palestinian.

 

I don't think I need to explain to you the difference between negotiating and reaching an agreement.

But I'm not talking just about a ceasefire. I'm talking about negotiating a two-state solution. Willingness to start those negotiations should make reaching an agreement on a ceasefire more accessible.

There is just about as much we can do to stop Hamas from attacking Israel as we can do to stop Israel from attacking Palestinians. Which is not much. But we CAN stop financing those attacks. And THAT is what the protests are about.

 

The colleges brought this all on themselves by promoting this thinking in their classes and now it has come back to bite them in the ass.

 

Which proves that the most effective way to prevent people from demanding justice is to keep them ignorant. Once people receive an education, they become a danger to governments.

 

The colleges are indoctrinating these young adults by brainwashing them, which is dangerous. They call it education but it is really brainwashing.

 

Does Palestinian government in Gaza , Ismail Haniye, leader of Palestinian government in Gaza aka Hamas’s leader wants two state solution?

Protester wants US stop funding Israel so Israel can’t attack Palestinian? Who is stopping Palestinian government attacking Israel ?

 

Not necessarily. I think this war has to take Hamas out of the picture. We have examples in history of devastating wars resulting in a sea change in nations. And that sea change might be on both sides. Let's hope so. We'll see.

 

They were sitting at the table last weekend when Palestinian government fired rocket and killed Israeli. So much so for sitting at the table.

 

Why people in Sudan can wait, people in Syria can wait, people in Yemen can wait, Rohingya Muslims in Myanmar can wait and many others suffering people in the the world can wait and only Palestinian CAN'T wait?

OK, I was only joking, I know that victims of Jews have special rights which other victims don't have.

There are 2 ways to stop suffering of Gaza people:
1. All world, including people of Gaza will demand that Hamas will release hostage and:
a. abend its plan to convert Israel to Muslim Caliphate
or
b. leave Gaza
2. We will strengthen terrorist organization which on Oct 7 committed genocide murdering 1200 Israelis, raped women and kidnapped men, women and children and promised to repeat such attacks - by forcing Israel not to fight with this terrorist organization.

I am not sure which option to chose - what you will chose?

I agree - Human Rights are NOT subject to vote - unfortunately in democratic vote people of Gaza elected government which want to deprive Israelis from Human Rights which are inherent to every human being and every human population. Hamas already permanently deprived about 1200 Israelis from this Human Rights, not just the RIGHT to self-determination, but even the right to LIVE. Hamas also deprived few hundred others Israelis by raping and kidnapping. It is disgusting. And it's even more disgusting when we realize that through UN are funding it.
Palestinians are the only people in the world which have special UN organization whose sole purpose is to help Palestinian people. This UN organization knew that Hamas purpose was to destroy Israel, that in schools in Gaza they teach children to hate Israel - did they try to prevent it? What do you think?

 

Can anybody contain their laughs when somebody who supports a convicted criminal sexual abuser who tortures children talks about "brainwashing"?

I can't!

 

Protesters want the US to stop funding used to kill civilians. Continuing to provide weapons for defensive systems like the Iron Dome and others are not used to kill civilians.

 

Israel took "out of the picture" the terrorist versions of Fatah, the FLP, the PFLP, the PLO... and many other Palestinian terrorist groups out of the picture. Hasn't helped much, has it? They just keep changing the name and nothing else changes.

Israel is not fighting a nation. They're fighting terrorists! Terrorists don't need a Nation the way the German army or the Italian army did. The reason they keep killing civilians and creating MORE terrorists is because they fail to understand this. Protesters who understand history do!

 

Do I really have to explain that when I say "sitting at the table" that doesn't mean that adoption the posture of sitting while resting on their buttocks is what is going to stop the rockets?

This is the second time in a row where you appear to be attempting a smokescreen to avoid addressing the POINT. You must forgive me if I'm wrong, but I can't help but start seriously wondering...

Obviously I'm talking about negotiating a two-state solution. THAT is the only way to stop this cycle. Are you able to address this point?

 

I don't know. I'm talking about Palestine. Specifically about Gaza. Please try to focus! I don't want to waste too much time in unrelated nonsense.

 

You have me confused with someone else. I don't support Biden.