An incredible proportion of Americans seem to be raging nutters. Congratulations to the sane ones. but is there any hope for such a weird madhouse?
When you are alone in the wilderness being armed is a wise thing. When you are walking through Wal-Mart or sitting down to dinner at your local Applebee's it is an entirely different thing. If you and your family have received safety training that is good. but, if by "at the ready" you mean the weapons are sitting there loaded and in the open then you are an tragedy that has not yet happened. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/12/1...edly-confesses-to-fatally-shooting-wife-over/ Most domestic shootings occur spontaneously because the weapon is available in the heat of the moment. And since most burglaries occur when no one is at home, if your guns are not kept in a locked gun safe, there is a good possibility your guns will fall into the hands of criminals. It is not the guns that are the problem. It is the foolish sense that because you have a gun you are somehow safer. Situational and security awareness are the better tools.
So the ONLY reason you carry a gun is because you have a "right" to carry a gun? I think there's a "Forrest Gump" quote that covers that.
No, because the world can be a bad place sometimes,and we don't have the option of picking when that's going to be. Hoplophobes like YOU call that being 'paranoid',I call it being prepared...
I can carry a firearm because it is my right. No other reason required. Do you ask people if they "speak" only because it is their right? Or go to church? Or vote? Before you repeat your cut-and-paste "data" about the dangers of firearms, spend the time reading the actual reports and the rebuttals. An arguement can be made about the danger of owning a firearm, but its not in any of the propaganda you are repeating.
Dunno - but all those who insist on being armed to the teeth like bandits and ensure that every crazy in the land has the means to kill children.
You can call it "chicken fingers with honey mustard dipping sauce" for all I care. It is the same thing. What you are most likely prepared for is: killing your spouse killing your child killing yourself and what you are mostly unprepared for is surviving any confrontation with any criminal.
You have the right to stand in front of the White House and rail about an impending alien invasion but... Statistically speaking you're still wrong. I do not make the argument against owning a firearm. I make the argument against the misconception that owning and carrying a firearm makes you safer.
I was raised in a home that had loaded revolvers and a shotgun in it... not one accidental shooting. I have had a loaded firearm in my home at ready since I have lived on my own.. I am 45 now. At ready doesn't mean visible or as readily accessible as your T.V remote... everything is done with logic. Really.. your claims of foolish are not reflecting well on your objectivity. You do not trust yourself around firearms.. nor do you trust yourself around firearms. I have a gunsafe that contains most of my firearms.. I have a pistol in an a holster installed under a night-table in my bedroom ( goes into the safe on my way out the door to work unless somebody will be home). I have a pistol concealed in a built -in recess on the underside of a shelf, readily available everybody in family knows knows about them and can use them. I consider these weapons to be very safely stored because they are out of sight and because of the intelligent and reasonable people that live in my household. As far as the domestic violence goes.. that will occur with a ball peen hammer or a butcher knife as easily as a firearm... the problem that has advanced to the point where deadly violence is being considered and is only being kept in check for lack of a weapon will happen eventually.. that's a problem with people.. not tools. In a more logical world I would be a supporter for tighter gun regulation... Gun shows would be a thing of the past... regulation for pistols and revolvers would be more restrictive and pistol possession accountability and maintenance of a permit to own them would be annual. Any DWI or violence based conviction would disqualify anybody from ownership of a HANDGUN. Sad thing is.. if we allowed this to happen.. i believe that handguns would be illegal to posses within 10 years of such regulation.
I was raised in a home that had loaded revolvers and a shotgun in it... not one accidental shooting. I have had a loaded firearm in my home at ready since I have lived on my own.. I am 45 now. At ready doesn't mean visible or as readily accessible as your T.V remote... everything is done with logic. Really.. your claims of foolish are not reflecting well on your objectivity. You do not trust yourself around firearms.. nor do you trust yourself around firearms. I have a gunsafe that contains most of my firearms.. I have a pistol in an a holster installed under a night-table in my bedroom ( goes into the safe on my way out the door to work unless somebody will be home). I have a pistol concealed in a built -in recess on the underside of a shelf, readily available everybody in family knows knows about them and can use them. I consider these weapons to be very safely stored because they are out of sight and because of the intelligent and reasonable people that live in my household. As far as the domestic violence goes.. that will occur with a ball peen hammer or a butcher knife as easily as a firearm... the problem that has advanced to the point where deadly violence is being considered and is only being kept in check for lack of a weapon will happen eventually.. that's a problem with people.. not tools. In a more logical world I would be a supporter for tighter gun regulation... Gun shows would be a thing of the past... regulation for pistols and revolvers would be more restrictive and pistol possession accountability and maintenance of a permit to own them would be annual. Any DWI or violence based conviction would disqualify anybody from ownership of a HANDGUN. Sad thing is.. if we allowed this to happen.. i believe that handguns would be illegal to posses within 10 years of such regulation.
No,you do NOT make the argument....you merely state it You're a long way from proving it using Kellerman.
Irrelevent And that is where you need to read the actual reports and the rebuttals. You are simply repeating old debunked data which you literally cut and pasted from the Brady Campaign web site (at least that was the ultimate source, maybe you copied from a secondary which copied from Brady).
There is no evidence that gun registration works. Canada has run that experiment for the past 20 years and there is no evidence that gun registration prevents crime, helps solve crimes, or assists the police in any way. That is why they have abolished their long gun registration program and are destroying the records. Registration and permitting only impacts the law abiding people. Criminals dont get permits or register their firearms. Once a firearm is stolen, registration does almost nothing to recover the firearm or capture the criminal. Thats what the Canadian experience has been. The only reason the gun control advocates want registration is because it is the first step in firearm confiscation. Thats the Canadian experience as well. You mention "As far as the domestic violence goes.. that will occur with a ball peen hammer or a butcher knife as easily as a firearm..." Are you going to register and permit hammers and knives?
As you are convinced of the idea that having a gun is going to statistically make you or your loved ones more at risk, I won't try to change your faith in that. Why would you think it wise to be armed "in the wilderness," were attacks on humans by wolves, moutain lions, bobcats and assorted bears are astronomically rare---even in the areas that are infested with these nuisance creatures, and think it a paranoid and foolish waste of time for those who live in and near especially dangerous areas with high crime rates to be armed? Again, for you, in your paticular area of New York, or wherever, where crime is probably low, and where you and your family can go to Applebee's with little fear of being shot, why can't you see that not everyone enjoys the same risks? What, honestly, do you think the relative risk of being attacked by a moutain lion in the wilderness of the Rockies is, compared to the relative risk of a person being a victim of a crime just by living in a downtown hellhole like Atlanta, Detroit or Newark? Crime areas do not stop like prison walls, the closer people are to hyper-violent areas, the more likely they will be victims. Just like being close to a grenade or bomb blast, the closer you are, the worst. Sorry, but not everyone lives in Mayberry, where sheriff Taylor doen't see the need for a gun.
You are using "facts" that include the deaths of criminals and people engaged in criminal activity at the time of their death. Do you not see the intellectual dishonestly you are blatantly presenting here?
Of course you don't. You see what your masters show you, obviously. You have an insane murder rate, and a lot of young people get killed by nutters. That is 'freedom' to those who sell you guns, though disciplined government troops could obviously wipe out a drunken mob of right-wing extremists in no time flat.
As you see it, Wails, or what ever part of the UK you inhabit must be the center of the civilized universe. You seem to forget the roits you had in London and other urban areas just a few years ago, done at almost exculsively at the hands of black socialists. Had you, or any of your relatives been living above one of the buildings that was looted and burned to the ground, I'm sure the last thing you would have done was grab a gun or even a rock to defend it. I think you would let yourselves be burned alive before you would break your liberal code forbiding lethal force.
Vacuous drivel, natural to a polity where no-one is allowed to think. You are totally ignorant of riots and British politics, so I suggest you don't show yourself up to people who do. You have more buildings burned down in the US on a normal Saturday, and far, far more people killed, as well you know. You drunken clowns are destroyed in vast numbers by your silly bang-bangs, Even during riots we are not. How much do they pay you to wash what serves you for brains?
Law-abiding citizens that own guns and exercise their rights are anything but right-wing extremist nutters.
Then I guess the Obama Administration is right wing and extremist. I'm sure you have heard of Fast & Furious.
