What's the argument against background checks for private gun sales?

Of course we have drunk driving laws, but we’re not dumb enough to ban cars now are we?

 

You might want hold that thought Bro! We, sure, them, well?

 

Oh, that's right I forgot the guys who want to ban gas engines, hippies I believe!

 

No, but they are heavily regulated and you need to register them and have a license to drive.

 

Registering a vehicle does nothing to prevent a drunk from crashing into someone does it?

 

from the applicant who answers under penalty of federal perjury and from the ID the buyer supplies

 

well we have seen that having a felony charge for any felon who possesses a firearm doesn't deter them

 

My main argument is that instead of focusing on the real problem (people who shouldn't be running around loose) we get sidetracked on something that actually wouldn't have stopped any of the mass shootings we have had. I mean, how many mass shootings have we had where people bought their weapons of choice through gunshow loopholes? You have to keep your eyes on the ball. Tackling a quarterback who doesn't even have the ball anymore doesn't win the game.

 

I did read it. I guess you didn't word it in a way that made sense.
Since the origin of this topic is man made rights.
Of which I said, all rights are man made.

I guess you need to explain better where rights come from if they are not "man made".


I say, rights come from man, man wrote those documents. Man sets up a system to grant/protect and enforce said rights written by man.
Typically that system is a gov't.

 

No, I don't get your point.
I have never said we should ban guns, ever.

Drunk driving laws are to attempt to stop incapable drivers from getting behind the wheel.

 

Yeah, and they fail terribly. And no one blames the car.

 

What fails miserably?
You don't think drunk driving laws have reduced OWI deaths?

 

No I don't. I don't think they do a damned thing without some objective statistics. There are more drunks on the road now than every as police do not engage in a lot of traffic stops, at least down here. Still, the car is not to blame the drunk is responsible.

 

Huge diff in a dumbass drunk and a premeditating Murderer..

 

That's why if background checks for private sales is made law, it would be totally separate to any prior shooting. I certainly didn't mention any of the shootings in my post.

 

You mean someone who possesses the firearm BEFORE they become a felon?

 

So what you're telling me is that gun owners are one hack away from having their names and addresses made public?

 

"...with respect to which a sale, delivery or transfer did not take place."

 

Indoor or outdoor?

 

I have no interest in accomodating homicidal teenagers, indoors or out.

 

Who are "they?"

 

That makes no sense what so ever..

 

Homicidal young men pampered by permissive firearm laws that allow them ready and easy access to their preferred implements of mass murder.

 

I'll expand a bit. I wrote this, which you said was written poorly, and couldn't be understood:

"The men who wrote the 2A would strongly disagree, I think. I can recognize your rights, and I can then write law to protect them, and I can then deploy armies and police to defend them by force if necessary, but that doesn't mean your rights came from me. Just because the government is charged with defending your rights, does not mean those rights came from the government. In fact, no rights come from the Constitution, it contains only frame work and limitations on the government."

The founders believed that we were endowed with our rights by our creator. And so they wrote protections into our Constitution to prevent the despots and scoundrels (democrats, these days) who invariably gain power from infringing them. Our rights come from our creator, and our government was enacted to protect them from man, not grant them to man. The only difference is, without government, you are on your own to protect your rights. Your rights do not disappear with the abolishment of government, only the defense of your rights by people other than you does.

 

There is practically no one on the planet who is more than one hack away from having their names and addresses made public.