When Did Republicanism Go Bad?

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  1. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    My parents were Republicans. I remember they admired Eisenhower above all others

    They weren't wealthy, had no really wealthy friends and never really planned on being wealthy. My father raised Chinchillas once, and got quite a few of them but quit when he realized he was too soft hearted to kill them. They (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)ed about taxes some but paid them with no real fuss and never cheated, they wouldn't have known how.

    They didn't have any black friends but no whites really did back then. They deplored the Southerners who beat blacks in the 60's and admired Martin Luther King

    They went to Church, but only because they were Catholics and Catholics had to. They even sent me to a Catholic School, but didn't seem that enthused about it.

    My father was drummer who admired Gene Krupa. He had smoked marijuana but never liked it.

    My father was in the Izaak Walton league as a fisherman. He went hunting once, and after shooting his deer took to his bed for a day. He got rid of his shotgun after that and we never had a gun in our house again. One of my mother's favorite quotes was "Take not the life, you cannot give. Everything has a right to live." We ate meat though. My grandmother and mother were both neighborhood cat ladies.

    When my father died my mother got survivor's benefits for several years until she passed. She never once said she felt she shouldn't

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  2. LoneStrSt8

    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    Absoulute road apples...
     
  3. Flaming Moderate

    Flaming Moderate New Member Past Donor

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    I think it is unfair to lay this at the feet of one party. The world went mad in the 60s and by the time it calmed down out of sheer exhaustion, America was ready for a different way. We tried a massive social experiment with trickle down economics, the War on Drugs, manantory sentencing, a massive naval build up to project power around the world. Like many experiments, it has failed to produce the Brave New World that was envisioned. But the liberal 60s failed us too with burning cites, political assassinations, a country divided as ever, and an economy in turmoil.

    It now appears we are nearing the next chapter of our society. Our politics are obviously broken, our economy is failing the majority, our standing in the world sinking with each new conflict we fail to address. Outside forces again demand we respond with change. You and I are now too old to define the new path, it iwill be to our children and grandchildren to find the wsy ahead. Like our parents before us, we will see how successful we were in passing along Anerican Values, We will just have to settle back and discover those values new definition.
     
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    justlikethat New Member

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    When they turned into democrats and the progressives took over the left.
     
  5. Surfer Joe

    Surfer Joe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think that the modern right-wing movement that has highjacked the repub party took off after the passage of civil rights in the 60s.
    All of the racist dixiecrats moved over to the repub party, encouraged in their intolerance, paranoia and bigotry by the so-called southern strategy used by Nixon and Reagan during their election campaigns.
    The election of a black man as potus caused the racists to pitch a hysterical fit, which pushed them even further into the lunatic fringe where hate, paranoia and fear dominate everyone's minds.
     
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    Russ103 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Took the words from me!

    I'll also add, the Repubs have been getting their tails kicked ever since they began thinking that they can get the MSM to treat them like Democrats by caving to Democrat demands and not fighting back against baseless accusations from a fringe, lunatic, progressive media.

    George W Bush allowing the MSM to treat him and his administration like dirt without fighting back has allowed the Republican party to be labeled whatever the hell the progressives want on any given day.
     
  7. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

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    My question is when did the party of the left become such self righteous and hypocritical swine that they though it was governments place to micromanage virtually every aspect of our lives down to and including where one should put coat hooks on the inside of bathroom stalls?
     
  8. PatrickT

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    They didn't. It just seems that way since the socialists/communists moved into the government. I'm so old that I can remember Democrats who were for lower taxes and helping working people. Ah, the good ole days.
     
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    Cautiously Conservative New Member Past Donor

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    The problem lies in your question - which assumes a false premise.

    Yes, there are right-wing extremists in the GOP.

    There are also left-wing extremists in the Democratic Party.

    We just had a chat here somewhere that showed more democrats were moving to the extreme Left than republicans were moving to the extreme right.

    The solution lies in trying to see both extremes as just that - extremes - and not judging either party by their extreme element.
     
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    They've been wrong from the very beginning. Obviously, monarchy is much cooler. I boo at republicanism. monarchism for the win!
     
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    Best description of the repubs I've read in years.
     
  12. dad2three

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  13. LoneStrSt8

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    You really should have stopped with 'I think'.

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    I was describing the post,pee-wee.
     
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    The question would be, where did the far left get their memes. It wasn't from reality but from a sense of entitlement to being right. Entitlement is the banner of the far left.

    If you are not for race based legislation, you are a racist.
    If you are not for legal theft, you are unfeeling.
    If you have any religious affiliation that tries to counter the 'do anything if you feel like it' crowd, you are a religious fanatic.
    If you understand freedom and rights, you are a threatening gun nut.
    If you want to limit tyranny, you are an inveterate moralizing busybody.

    Not only do you FAIL but you even resort to comparing to Nazi's because someone doesn't favor your intent on oppression and new left wing slavery of the worker.
     
  15. Gatewood

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    Oh! I can answer that one! It started with Obama-lite getting elected in 1977 whereupon Jimmy Carter essentially threw the political doors to real power and influence inside the party to the radical wingnuts that until then had been safely contained at the fringes of meaningful power and influence. One reason that so many leftwingers today despise the Clintons is that Bill Clinton as president actually struggled to reset the internal power ratio to favor people with common sense and love for this nation.

    But after Clinton's presidency the leftwing extremist nutters began consolidating and then expanding their influence and power base inside the Dem Party to the extent that in 2008 they were able to rectally insert the radical extreemist Barack Obama into the Oval Office. Anyway it's obvious that the radical nation hating leftist Barack Obama has now out 'Jimmied' Jimmy Carter in finishing handing over a pretty much ideologically gutted Dem Party to the party's nutter extremists.

    How's that?
     
  16. dad2three

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    What it is with today's GOP is that the facts - whether scientific, historical, or just common sense - interfere with their ideological utopia.
    If you try to debate them (many of my relations are Tea Party) there is absolutely no real communications. For them, often common words do not have the same meaning as they do for the rest of us. They've been so indoctrinated in "code" words that have a broad expanse of meanings, but totally divorced from what the word really means. There is no way to converse. The closest phenomenon is that of the USSR's political and scientific dogma that if you kept cutting off rats' tails, rats would be born w/o tails. It bollixed USSR science for decades... and put them far behind the US. Now we are doing the very same thing

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    Why do Republicans always accuse the intelligent, accomplished people of promoting a left wing agenda? You can't expect them to promote the agenda purported by the"Stupid Party"!
     
  17. Hoosier8

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    Freedom, an alleged utopian concept from the far left. The left does display the arrogance of those that think they are right without any real connection to reality. Just because the left has a code book to re-interpret common words and phrases as racism, they think that everyone thinks the same.

    They also appear to think because someone is not a far left ideologue, they are somehow less intelligent.

    Thanks for a perfect example.
     
  18. dad2three

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    Perfect example Bubs, thanks

    That's ALL that right-wingers do is re-write history and assert complete disinformation.
     
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    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LOLZ - you almost made it through your aneurysmal rant without invoking Godwin's Law. :lol:

    Sorry about your butt-hurt from the last elections. Obviously, the American people aren't buying the "progressive" propaganda you're peddling.

    Boo-hoo...:(
     
  20. Hoosier8

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    Well, at least the Republicans were not the party of historical racism. At least they are not the party that continues to push race based legislation as they did in the past, arguably the very definition of racism. At least they aren't the party that blocked anti-lynching laws.
     
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    DEMS got 20 milion more votes than the GOP

    But here&#8217;s a crazy fact: those 46 Democrats got more votes than the 54 Republicans across the 2010, 2012, and 2014 elections. According to Nathan Nicholson, a researcher at the voting reform advocacy group FairVote, &#8216;the 46 Democratic caucus members in the 114th Congress received a total of 67.8 million votes in winning their seats, while the 54 Republican caucus members received 47.1 million votes.'&#8221;


    http://politicalwire.com/2015/01/03/democratic-senators-got-more-votes-than-republicans/



    GOP Memo: Gerrymandering Won Us The House Majority

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/gop-memo-gerrymandering-won-us-the-house-majority


    Republicans choose to ignore facts and reality and live in a right wing world of delusion and disconnect created by the right wing echo chamber of spin, lies and misinformation.

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    Nah, that was the conservative ideology, you know today's GOP base?
     
  22. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Speaking of echo chamber. LOL

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    At least you belong to the party of historical racism. Proud are you?
     
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    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Another priceless example of Leftist projection.

    Incidentally, was it you who was bleating about euphemisms? That's pretty funny coming from the people who brought us Orwellian whoppers like "Hope" "Change" and "Fundamental Transformation". But even those pale in comparison the Babeuvian Illiterati's ultimate howler: "progressive", which is used to describe a bunch of neo-socialist reactionaries who haven't had an original idea pop into their empty heads since François-Noël Babeuf lost his in 1797. :deadhorse:
     
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    Don't know the parties have switched sides huh? And it's the GOP trying to restrict rights today? Like stopping LEGAL voters from voting?

    Of course when less than 10% of blacks support the GOP, the GOP MUST be supportive of civil rights correct?? lol

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    Blah, blah, blah


    ONE policy conservatives have EVER stood on the correct side of history on? Just one???? lol
     
  25. dad2three

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    YOUR dodge on the elections noted Bubs
     

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