When The Russian Hoax Is Exposed, Should The Democrats Be Held Accountable?

Keyword of the OP title is "when"

 

To deny the 17 agencies' inclusion in the joint statement is to deny the very structure of the US Intelligence Community. This has been fact checked and explained several times, the consensus of the 17 agencies is that Russia did in fact meddle with our elections. This consensus was published by the Director Of National Security through a joint statement.

This does not mean that there was a joint investigation involving all 17 agencies, it does not mean each agency individually made a statement, and no one in here was ever arguing otherwise

The Coast Guard and the Coast Guard Intelligence are two entirely different agencies

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coast_Guard_Intelligence
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Coast_Guard






What does the Coast Guard Intelligence have to do with US Intelligence? quite a bit actually

 

1. Yes there was a crime, Russia meddling with our elections constitutes as at least two crimes, hacking and electronic espionage (more may be discovered through further investigations)

2. I wasn't really expressing an opinion when I said it was a criminal investigation, I mean it is literally a criminal investigation. https://www.aol.com/article/news/20...to-include-criminal-investigation-o/22124033/

3. A foreign national spending money to influence a federal election, and a US citizen who coordinates or assists said spending is committing a crime under the Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act of 2002. Which is a part of what is being investigated. You claim that the law doesn't apply to foreign nationals, but a court ruling in 2011 concluded that the law bans foreign nationals "from making expenditures to expressly advocate the election or defeat of a political candidate"
http://www.politico.com/static/PPM191_110808_bluman.html

4. You're confusing secret police tactics with legal police tactics. Secret police tactics involve extrajudicial arrests, but legal police tactics require the police to gather evidence before charging someone of a crime, and the person who is charged is then entitled to a fair trial

5. If a homeless person was killed and the police received a tip that I had killed the homeless person.. then yeah, they would probably investigate that, and maybe even take me in for questioning. If the investigation found no evidence that I had committed the crime, then I would not be charged of any crimes.


You seem to think an investigation is something more severe than what it actually is

 

I think we've already covered this multiple times.

 

FINE DISCHARGE ME since you can't produce any evidence of false charges. Criminal Thoughts claimed "false charges"; you defend him; you can't substantiate his claim or your defense of him. Get lost.

 

The hoax is obvious. The tinfoil-hat people will never be convinced.

 

Then what was your argument to begin with? It would seem that you were basing your arguments against me on claims that were never made anywhere in this thread by anyone.

 

And you'll say that until the convictions begin. LOL!!!!

 

what is trump hiding if he has nothing to hide, release his taxes, have his admin tell the truth for once

 

shouldn't the right be shouting "lock him up" before the investigation completes

 

If the tinfoil hat fits, wear it!

It's a scam!

"No evidence" says everyone on the record. How much no evidence do you need?

 

Yup!

By mentioning the "three separate occasions" Trump was basically admitting that it was a question that he asked Comey several times. It exposes that not only was the Russian investigation a major concern of Trump's but that he himself might be a target of that investigation. It was, as @TomFitz observed above, an utterly stupid and pointless attempt to declare that "I am not a crook"!

Then it was compounded by threatening Comey with "tapes of our conversations". That opens up a whole new can of worms. Were there actual tapes? What has happened to those tapes? Has Trump tried to destroy those tapes? Does Trump's lawyer have access to those tapes? If there weren't any tapes then Trump was threatening a witness to an official FBI investigation. Either way those tapes, or lack thereof, put Trump in an awkward position.

All of the above is entirely self inflicted! The media had no knowledge of the content of any conversations between Trump and Comey or any tapes of such conversations prior to the revelations made by Trump himself. He cannot blame the media for accurately reporting what he has done to himself.

But that won't stop him and his sycophantic supporters from blaming the media, and everyone else, for Trump's hamfisted screwup when firing Comey.

 

Ironic coming from a devoted supporter of the Birther-Conspiracy-in-Chief!

 

Who is "everyone" and please provide links of what "everyone" said "on the record".

TYIA

 

How many people in the birther-in-chief's administration have Russian connection and affiliations? Practically all of them. They might as well be working out of The Kremlin. It would be funny and somewhat amusing if it were a work of fiction, but it's not...it's bizarrely real. If it had been Obama's administration, the right would be foaming from their collective mouth.

 

So now you foam and criticize.

 

From where do you get your news reports? You haven't heard this before? You must lead an even more insular life than I do.

 

Thank you for tacitly admitting that you were just posting baseless nonsense!

Have a nice day!

 

If making up a garbage argument helps you to feel good about yourself, have at it.

 

I don't think there is a single democrat/liberal who realises how stupidly ridiculous they sound with their conspiracy theories, shall I say ever moving conspiracy theories. Adjust your tinfoil hats boys, Vladimir is trolling you like fools.

Putin is ruthlessly trolling the Democrats

https://nypost.com/2017/06/02/putin-is-ruthlessly-trolling-the-democrats/

Vladimir Putin not only has the Democrats’ number, he’s dialing it every day.

Dems are desperate to believe Russia “hacked the election” last year to defeat Hillary Clinton, and Putin’s happy to feed the paranoia to help paralyze Washington.

It’s crank-calling at its finest, really.

Thus, on Thursday he said that Russia’s government has never engaged in hacking . . . but mayyybeee Russian “patriotic hackers” meddled in the election, all on their own.

“Hackers are free people like artists,” Putin said. “If artists get up in the morning feeling good, all they do all day is paint. If they [hackers] are feeling patriotic, they will start contributing, as they believe, to the justified fight against those speaking ill of Russia.”

He seemed to be confirming the interference while denying responsibility. What better way to bring smoke pouring from progressive ears, and screams of ‘He’s covering for Trump.’

Putin also allowed as how he still has hopes for closer cooperation with America, once the current “Russo-phobic hysteria,” which is aimed at Trump “to prevent him from working normally,” fades.

That gave “the resistance” patriotic cause to stay its course, feeding the idea that Trump will sell out America if they let him.

Finally, Putin parried a query from NBC’s Megyn Kelly about the US intelligence community’s finding that Moscow had meddled by asking if she’d read the report. Yes, she said, the unclassified version.

Putin came back: “That’s nothing, I’ve actually read those reports” — implying he’d read the classified ones, that his spies have penetrated the US government that thoroughly.

All in all, Grade-A trolling.

 

Ironic given that was exactly what you could not substantiate!

 

Yet you don't refute it. What are your sources? Why haven't you heard that there is no evidence of any crimes?

 

The onus was entirely on YOU to substantiate your utterly bogus allegation about "everyone on record".

That you failed to do so is not my problem.

 

So I was right, you really didn't have any idea what the argument was! No wonder it didn't go anywhere!

Simply put, and for the upteenth time, you used the term, "17 Intelligence agencies" as if all 17 intelligence agencies had determined that there was "Russian hacking." That was factually incorrect, in spite of numerous press reports using that verbiage.

 

Never, ever will leftists admit this, while continuing to be useful idiots to Putin's cause.