When Will The Left Learn Vaccinations Do NOT Stop The Spread?

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  1. independentthinker

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    When will the right learn that all you need to do to be protected from me (vaccinated) spreading the virus to you is get yourself vaccinated. This would help stop the spread. It's sort of a duhhhhhhhhh.
     
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    Did you not even read the article? Vaccinated people spread the virus to other vaccinated people.
     
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    I’m not on the left. But I haven’t heard the left claiming that vaccination can STOP the spread.

    Vaccination is being shown to make the illness be of a shorter duration, with milder symptoms, reducing the chances of needing hospitalization, and reducing the chances of death.
     
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    who are protected and likely will not be hospitalized while the non-vaxxed are in the hospital dying. Another Duhhhhhhh! Stop banging your head against the wall and the pain will probably go away.
     
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    Don't read much or listen to the news much, do you? While the last part of what you said was true, that is NOT what the left are saying. They are claiming that the unvaccinated are spreading the virus while seemingly oblivious to the vaccinated spreading the virus.

    Just one example:

    They are firing unvaccinated health care workers for spreading the virus, even if they agreed to be tested weekly while letting vaccinated health care workers spread the virus, basically never being tested. Fact is, an unvaccinated health care worker getting regular testing is actually less likely to spread the virus than vaccinated health care workers who don't get tested. Another example is letting in 80,000 vaccinated people into a football stadium spreading the virus to thousands while locking out the unvaccinated.
     
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    Don't people have the right to make their own health decisions? I mean if this is about spreading the virus, then what is the difference between the vaccinated spreading the virus and the unvaccinated spreading the virus? They both spread the virus.
     
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    What a pile… I’m vaccinated and slept next to a positive COVID wife for the whole duration of her sickness. I never got COVID and if I did I was asymptomatic. The vaccine may not stop the spread but it definitely worked for me to not feel ill. In other words, the vaccine helped me and no one else. If you don’t think the vaccine will help you then don’t get it, if you do think it will help you then get it. but it didn’t stop my family from getting it. It’s a personal protection not a communicable protection. You as an individual can only take precautions for you with this, it has nothing to do about helping others.
     
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    Just wanted to comment on one part of your post about the football stadiums.

    As far as I can tell, only 4 NFL stadiums are requiring either a vaccination or negative test. Colleges seem to be a bag of mixed nuts, nut couldnt find specific numbers. Even so, one would think we'd be seeing a huge spike given all these super-spreader events every weekend. Instead, we're seeing case numbers, hospitalizations and deaths drop.
     
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    Wow.
     
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    Vaccinated people tend to be ill for less time and have a quicker recovery. It would logically follow that they are contagious for less time and therefore less likely to spread it to others. Repeat, less likely.

    Everybody knows vaccinated people can get it and spread it. Anyone on the left or right claiming that vaccinated people can’t spread it is wrong. But if the vaccination helps fight off the infection quickly, those people probably are less likely to spread it to others. That’s just logical.
     
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    Vaccination does not stop a virus from spreading.

    No it wouldn't. Viruses spread regardless of whether or not someone gets vaccinated. In fact, vaccinations themselves are the act of spreading viruses from a syringe into the arms of the people being vaccinated.
     
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    It seems that you missed post #2 in this very thread then.

    None of that is being shown.
     
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    You contradicted yourself here... If one is "protected", then one definitely will not be hospitalized, not "likely will not be".

    Obviously, vaccinations do not protect people from viruses or infection. A number of people even become sick with what they were vaccinated for shortly after receiving said vaccination.

    Bigotry. There are many non-vaxxed people who are not even in the hospital, let alone dying.

    I suggest that you take your own advice.
     
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    BINGO! Well said!
     
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    That might be true but another truth is that by far the majority of people who are in the hospital dying are non-vaxxers.
     
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    Your right to make health decisions stops when they affect me. If you want to drink or smoke yourself to death that's your business. If you want to smoke or drink yourself to death that's your business. \ If you want to go around spreading a virus that kills people, that's not your business.
     
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    Read post #2 again yourself and work on your cognitive skills while doing so. I didn't say vaccinations stopped the virus from spreading. I said if you were vaccinated that would protect you from the virus being spread.
     
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    There are so many sources backing me up, it would take me all day to list them.

    Google "vaccinated versus unvaccinated death" and knock yourself out.
     
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    You just got done saying that non-vaxxed people are in the hospital dying. Are you now rescinding your bigotry and recognizing that there are also many non-vaxxed people who are NOT in the hospital dying?

    Nope. That's also a lie. If anything, it is a bit more-so the vaxxed who are ending up in hospitals. There is no "pandemic of the unvaccinated". That line of BS is precisely that... BS.
     
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    The vaccinated are the primary group catching Covid in the UK. It appears to be the vaccinated spreading it now.
     
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    Tell that to the vaccinated that are spreading it.
     
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    You should take your own advice.

    You said that vaccinations would help to stop the spread of the virus.

    You also (directly afterward) said that vaccination would help stop the spread of the virus.
     
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    Then list a single VALID source...

    Google is not a valid source.

    My aunt works in a healthcare setting and she's told me that she sees many more vaxxed people come through than unvaxxed.
     

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