Where did the wives of Cain and Abel come from?

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  1. tkolter

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    The world is under the dominion of Satan so clearly the evidence for such miracles and wonders would be the first thing they cover up and the vicious remaining Nephelim the ancient breed of half demons who survived being creatures of the waters, God commands the heavens and all things but we are under the taint of Sin.

    As for ancient cultures ,so called, how do you know Satan didn't alter the early history and records and the very radioactive elements to hide the truth they are all not of God but of Satan anyway being neither under the OT God so were pagan enemies under demonic influence.

    However the question is where did the spouses come from we don't know or need to know, save they were there. My guess Cain married a demon and spawned early Nephilim and Abel married one of his sisters.
     
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    More likely demons are actually aliens in disguise and seduced Adam in the form of Lilith after zapping God with their deity confusion ray. Both Lilith and Eve were presented for Adam to impregnate and the offspring were used to create the hybrids we call humans. All females are actually aliens and males are the original animals that existed. That is the reason all creatures require one male an one female to reproduce...basically we are all an experiment designed by the aliens that control God.
     
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    According to ancient legends.. Adam and Eve were separated by God for 134 years after the Fall. During that time Adam cohabited with Lilith and gave birth to demons.
     
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    The Nephilim predate Genesis by 1000 years.
     
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    According to Jewish folklore, Lilith was the first wife of Adam. She was banished from the Garden of Eden when she refused to make herself subservient to Adam (specifically, she refused to get into the missionary position with him during sex). When she was cast out, she was made into a demon figure, and Adam was given a second wife, Eve, who was fashioned from his rib to ensure her obedience to her man.
     
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    The other legend is from ancient Jewish texts. In their version.. After 134 years God forgave Adam and Eve and mother Eve was eventually buried in Jedda.
     
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    But if God forgave original sin....all this cr@p afterward must be for fun or something.
     
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    Original sin wasn't really doctrine until 3rd century AD.. See Augustine.

    Jews and Muslims don't believe in original sin.
     
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    Wait a sec here...are you saying the people who believe in God are confused about what it is?
     
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    Ummm you realize you have it backwards. The legend is that Lilith was Adam's first wife, created as his equal in every way, and Adam hated her. She felt that women should serve men, and so he asked God to cast Lilith out of the garden and create him a new wife. God this this, and used Adam's rib to create Eve, who would be beneath Adam, because she was created from him. Lilith who felt betrayed by both God and Adam turned against them, and helped Satan enter the Garden. According to legend, Lilith's hatred for Adam extended to all of his male descendants. She became the first succubus, a demon who feeds off of love and sex, draining men of their life force as they have sex.
     
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    No.. I don't have anything backwards.. There are multiple legends about Lilith. The one I repeated is but one of many.. and it dates back to both Jewish and Muslim lore.
     
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    Christians are confused about many things. Up till Irenaeus, 2nd century, original sin was not heard of. Jews always accepted that man was born in innocence and was responsible for his own sins. Irenaeus alluded to it and it was developed by Augustine. The church has been responsible for many misinterpretations over the years.
     
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    Okay so the Church that is meant to spread the "Word of God" has made up the words but said God wrote it?
     
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    Thr Bible was written by man. If God had written it we wouldn't have the ridiculous claims, stories, myths and exaggerations which can easily be disproved by study of archaeology, ancient history, geography and culture.
     
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    This is an allegory. All the first chapters of Genesis are a parable. Adam means man. The animals that God offered Adam's helpers are spiritual qualities of people: "ox" - diligence, "wolf" - predation, "hare" - cowardice, "lion" - courage, "snake" - wisdom (cunning). Adam gave names to animals - words corresponding to these spiritual qualities appeared in the ancient language. The Adam's rib is bone, "bone" means "essence" in Hebrew. "Wife" of Adam is the environment of people, the same adams.

    Abel is a poor man, he considered it a vanity to pursue wealth. The word "Abel" means "vanity." Cain is a rich man, a money-grubber. The word "cain" translates as "acquisition". In humanity, the tendency to seek wealth won, Cain killed Abel.

    Well, and the rest in the first chapters of the book Genesis, this also should be seen as images. "Water" is "people", "peoples" (see Revelation 17:15). "Land" is a religion, religious people rely on different rules. "Seas" - this is the world, where people live as they want, according to the desires of the soul, they swim like fish in the ocean.

    "Heaven" (firmament) is the Holy Spirit, "the stars" are sages and teachers of humanity. And so on.

    The parable of the Flood is also a parable, not a story. Noah's Ark is also an artistic image, like the story of Jonah, whom the whale swallowed.

    But the Temple described in the prophecy of Ezekiel is a real Temple that will be built.
     
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    In other words, The Bible is a book of falsehoods and not to be taken seriously beyond light reading?

    Good to know.
     
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    Well done.. I agree that its allegory ....
     
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    No.. Bible is a book of lessons.
     
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    And if anyone believes that they'll believe anything. And '90-foot tall people' indeed? Where the **** are they mentioned in the bible? Answer - they're not!
     
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    Biblical Genesis stories are Hebrew adaptations of earlier myths written from the 7th century on. They are not the same but adapted for Jewish theology.

    Adam and Eve - Adama and Evah. (Zoroaster). Enkidu and Shamhat (Epic of Gilgamesh)
    Cain and Abel - Romulus and Remus. (Creators of the City of Rome)

    Cain is קין (qayin) and Abel is הבל (havel).

    The word קין (qayin) - Cain, means to acquire or possess something - which is why Eve (chavah in Hebrew) said "I have gotten (qanah) a man" (Gen 4:1). The word הבל (havel) Abel, means to be empty, often translated as vain or vanity in the sense of being empty of substance
     
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    "Giants in the earth".. Sumer AKA Shumer means land of the Watchers... the Nephilim. It comes from Sumerian mythos.. and that may have come from an earlier civilization.
     
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    Aasop did that too....his are more entertaining.
     
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    Agreed.... and the Uncle Remus stories.
     
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    Allegory is not a lie. The Lord God uses parables so that we can understand another, spiritual world that we can not see with our earthly eyes.
     
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