Where is Liberalism Going?

The Wars of Religion, which continue to this day.

 

Everyday I thank god I'm not a conservative and everyday I get confirmation as to why.

 

Secular brainwashing, as by the media, is just as bad. At least some religions give us a clue that there are other standards to live by.

Wake up! Books on philosophy, etc are not even available in poor areas. Have you gone into a news stand or bookstore in a poor, isolated, non-metro area and really looked? Church is the way out in such places. What do you think motivates many to proselytize for churches? Some have actually been saved by religion. It's all they had. Don't knock it.

Don't knock anything that gives people alternatives. Even astrology can be helpful. Just because you have found your freedom does not mean that others will, using the same route. They are different than you. Leave them alternatives. Don't be among those that trap people behind no exit signs.

 

Religion should Only be used for Goodness and not Badness if we are to aspire to any form of holiness, through morality.

 

Freedom is necessary first. No potential paths to it should be destroyed.

You don't destroy a fire escape just because a burglar may use it.

 

Over the 240 yr history of the U.S., we've had many crises as well as unethical and unscrupulous political factions. However, the Left and the Democratic Party of today is the most dangerous, unprincipled and deceitful in this nation’s history.

They callously dismiss Islamic terrorism, consciously pit citizen against citizen, irresponsibly promise Nirvana, exploit various ethnic blocs in their self-serving game and deliberately undermine individual freedom in order to achieve their devious ends.

It's about the Democrat vote and power. The tactics of the American Left is reprehensible and their objectives beneath contempt.

 

Socialism, then communism.

 

don't know what you mean. it is the right that has nothing but repeal instead of better solutions at lower cost.

 

Poor people are more poor after 8 years of Obamarriage

More black in black violence
More murders
More crime

What's that tell ya...

 

Did I smell the ministry of truth?

 

Why shouldn't we have a minimum wage at fifteen dollars an hour with welfare and unemployment compensation covering the rest?

 

Not so much

http://money.cnn.com/2016/03/15/news/economy/blacks-trump-obama/

 

1) Ironic!

2) Irony squared!

3) Irony cubed given the kinds of drivel Tr(oll)mp is spouting.

 

Liberalism has a long track record of improving the lives of everyone.

 

Religions exploit the poor for their own purposes. Granted individuals might be doing things for the poor out of altruism but religions are self serving and need warm bodies to fill houses of worship.

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The "freedom" to be poor is not freedom.

 

lol, every time a liberal gets what they want it cost hard working Americans and they are never better solutions so your answer is to demand more money from hard working Americans so you can throw more money at it. And round and round we go.

Of course if you don't work, don't pay taxes, or are on the dole you couldn't understand this.

 

Of course I understand that I don't whine about taxes; because, I can simply quit and use public services. That may require too much action and less talk, from the right.

 

I'd like to see more action (paying taxes) by the left.... pay your fair share.

 

Yeah, the war monger Hillary is so much better.


BOOK: Hillary Clinton called disabled children 'f***ing ree-*****'...
Jews 'stupid k***s'...
Bill called Jesse Jackson 'damned n****r'...

 

That is not the freedom I was discussing with Daniel; please do not twist the thought into some assumption you have made without following the discussion.

 

i would love to; why not ask the rich to simply use their richness, to create a Jobs Boom so i can earn an income to pay taxes?

 

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article...ecord-10th-straight-year-without-3-growth-gdp

This long a record of less than 3% GDP growth has not occurred during any previous economic crisis in America, not even the 1930s Great Depression.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterfe...ama-be-americas-worst-president/#2d3c348230f5

 

No jobs should be exported. With the advancements in robotics, we will soon arrive at a place where every job not done by a robot will be needed. No nation who looks out for its people would ever export a single job. This idea of free trade creating more jobs than no free trade is a delusion. You only can employ the max number of your own people, when you allow them to make consumption. Domestic consumption. Trade should only involve raw materials, food(to nations who cannot produce enough for their people) specialty items like French wine, and then trade done to keep up good relations with other nations. Each nation should employ its own people, in making what that nation consumes. Anything other than this, will create unnecessary unemployment.

The only rational way to think about trade is simple common sense. If the US runs a trade deficit with its trading partners, which we do, in all of these free trade agreements, that deficit represents jobs lost, that could exist here, employing our own people. And if, we run a surplus with another nation, that surplus represents unemployment in that nation, for we are taking the place of their workers. So, the goal, in order not to hurt the workers in each nation, is to have a zero, or as close to zero as possible, trade balance. But this of course is if you want to look out for your own people, instead of looking out for specific corporations who benefit, but at the cost of unemployment and safety net spending to take care of these people they fired when they moved to cheap labor. So, free trade drives up safety net spending, paid by taxes and borrowing, in order that a specific corporation can make more profits.

So, understanding this, we know why free trade exist, with its offshoring. It is not to benefit the nation, America, or its people, it is devised to max out profits for particular elites. This is neoliberalism.

So, the only way to keep unemployment down, is for each nation to make as much as what it consumes as possible, period, end of story. Which means protecting your own people, their jobs. And to not allow corporations, and banksters to max out profits at the cost to the people who must work for a living. So, you never offshore jobs, period. This comes from delusional thinking, and not understand what trade is, and what it does. Thank god I was educated in the 50s, when you were actually educated. Instead of programmed for neoliberalism. Propagandized, so that common sense is trashed.

So trade surpluses, which we do not run anymore, represents taking away jobs from the nation we run the surplus with. And jobs are what feeds people. Trade deficits, which we now run habitually, represents unemployed americans, for another nation has American jobs. And they have those jobs in order to max out the profits of particular corporations, but at a great cost to America. So, each nation, again, should strive to make what it consumes, and to run close to zero trade balances, in order to serve the people who must work for their living. Clearly, our gov't is no longer concerned about our own people, and only concerned about particular corporations and their profits. And this came about with the dismantling of the FDR economy. By neoliberalism. First the GOP, and then thanks to Clinton, the democrats.

 

Feel free to elaborate on which "freedom" the poor enjoy by being born into less fortunate circumstances that you were discussing with Daniel.

 

Liberalism has been around since recorded history began. The concepts of the individual and liberty were discussed by the Ancient Greeks. The liberalism that we currently enjoy began with the Magna Carta in 1215 when it rid We the People of the tyrannical yoke of the "divine right of kings" and replaced it with "govern with the consent of the governed". It continued with the English Civil Wars that resulted in direct voting for representation in the House of Commons. It was not perfect because it ignored the rights of those in the "colonies" and that resulted in the War of Independence AKA the American Revolution and our current Constitution.

All of that was done by liberals fighting and dying for individual rights against conservative backed tyrants.

Today liberalism has ensured that blacks are no longer enslaved, women can vote, people have healthcare and gays can marry the consenting adult of their choice.

Liberalism has a very long track record of improving the lives of individuals.