Which of the following cases should be granted an abortion

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by Bowerbird, Jun 5, 2021.

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Which of the following cases should be granted an abortion

  1. 26 year old 17 weeks pregnant with a partial miscarriage - foetus retained has heartbea

    16 vote(s)
    94.1%
  2. 11 year year old pregnant by grandmothers boyfriend 20 weeks pregnant

    16 vote(s)
    94.1%
  3. Mother of four 2 disabled children husband lost his job 8 weeks pregnant

    16 vote(s)
    94.1%
  4. 17 year old homeless girl 10 weeks pregnant

    16 vote(s)
    94.1%
  5. A 36 year old woman 28 weeks pregnant foetus diagnosed with anencephaly

    17 vote(s)
    100.0%
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  1. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Didn't you bring up stock animals?

    As to your basis of your opinion, I do not argue over your opinion, just my own opinion.
     
  2. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I said nothing about your suspicions. What makes you believe all of we who reply must adhere to what you claim?
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you mean American abortion laws, check out your own map again. Abortion here is legal.
     
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    Ritter Well-Known Member

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    I do not care about "studies" proving positive extetnalities for "society". I am only interested in the only thing that matters and that is the life of the unwillingly pregnant woman herself. It needs only to be good for her.

    Then why did you have to mention race?

    Why? Do you even know what morals are?

    There is no loss of life following an abortion.
     
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  5. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I read that as like a demand or quasi statement that included conditions. I checked again to see where I missed the question mark. I still see none.
     
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    Discredited rubbish you mean

    Now let us turn that thought on the “good of the country” around and think about the impact on family, Society, And economics when women are able to control the size of the families
     
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    Bravo!
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We won't get anywhere you want to go if you do not understand the nature of comments made to you.
    I merely informed you of a particular study that was revisited more than a few times. And all you saw was color.
    It would have been wrong for me to know the study was about blacks and pretend it was not.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am pretty certain that the authors of Freakonomics did a correct study that has not been called discredited.
    You are arguing for cases that are totally lawful.
    So what is the argument?
     
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    Then you really need to work on how you present your posts because the way you did it made it look like your post was an implicit accusation of me supporting abortion for racist reasons.
     
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    My argument is clear. Yours, however, isn't.

    No one has any idea what the heck it is you are trying to say right now or how it relates to anything at all.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I do not understand your claims. The poll is over lawful abortions. Every case is currently legal.
     
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    Are they? Not everywhere. The first two cases I listed actually caused such a public outcry and response that those countries changed the abortion laws - Yes both Ireland and Argentina changed thier abortion laws making them less restrictive

    Now tell me Robert, since you have been making an issue over this thread being about America and the abortion laws there - now you find that it is in fact about international opinions and legislation - will you continue in this thread?
     
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    No it is not

    Go back and read it
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I deal with America most of the time.
    I discovered posts of mine being deleted.
    Seems others make offensive remarks that I reply to and my comments are not wanted.
    Seems silly to reply to what happens in other countries when my efforts are here in America.
     
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    I wish I could reply to posts that want to even discuss animals or women as breeders too.

    I have the book. I plan to read it again to refresh my recollection.
    I do not know why you post. That is as frank as I can make it.
     
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    And since this is not an exclusively American thread are you going to continue debating on this thread?

    BTW this might be a good time to point out that every single scenario has been granted an abortion and not one person on this thread has argued against any specific scenario
     
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    No, forget it. I am not willing to keep discussing lawful acts by females.
     
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    Robert said:
    So you think the reason crime rates fell in the black community was due to abortion being good?
    https://freakonomics.com/podcast/abortion/ """""""



    OH NO!!! There won't be any more Presidents !!! Oh Help !! Help!
     
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    DUH, then DON'T.
     
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    YOU singled out COLOR :

    Robert said:
    So you think the reason crime rates fell in the black community was due to abortion being good?
    https://freakonomics.com/podcast/abortion/""""
     
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    Hard to believe there are "people" so cruel that they would ban these abortions....
     
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    All true. It'd be a lot easier to convince them if there were less folks abusing the system.
     
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    Let's keep in mind you are talking about a woman who does this to herself.
    No one is forcing an illegal abortion on her.

    (In fact, if there really was a pressing medical need for her to get an abortion, she would be legally able to get it. Hopefully you are not disputing that.)
     
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    You're not supporting this, are you?

    That sounds like the most flimsy excuse ever.
    "I'm going to get an abortion because I'm depressed, or I might be after childbirth."

    Hopefully you're not using this as an argument for your position. (or at least not a primary argument. Are you saying that some women do get an abortion for this sole reason??)
     
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