Which of these three options would be best for America?

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Which of these three options would be best for America, and would get us on the right track?

  1. Conservatives take over all 3 branches of government, and pass drastic legislation

    15 vote(s)
    44.1%
  2. Liberals take over all 3 branches of government and pass drastic legislation

    2 vote(s)
    5.9%
  3. A return to a centrist government built on compromises.

    17 vote(s)
    50.0%
  1. Pro_Line_FL

    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The responses are very telling, and not at all surprising. Republicans want their party to pass partisan bills, and everyone else wants a centrist government who is willing to compromise.

    Classic "my way or the highway" mindset.
     
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  2. ECA

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    And Repubs refused to work with Obama. As I pointed out…both sides play this childish game. Something you don’t want to acknowledge ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
     
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    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    False they negotiated the sequester and the austerity programs with him and then held him to them and also extended tax cuts. And that is what cut the deficit by more than half. Something you won't acknowledge.
     
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    Junkieturtle Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Options A and B are both equally terrible for the country. No one ideology should be running everything, ever.
     
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    Hahahaha…look at you ignoring everything else they blocked. It was well known how much they wouldn’t work with Obama. Look, I get it….you’re so hyper partisan that you will never admit BOTH sides play these games.

    https://www.politico.com/magazine/s...an-party-obstructionism-victory-trump-214498/
    The Republicans were pumped because they saw a path out of the political wilderness. They were convinced that even if Obama kept winning policy battles, they could win the broader messaging war simply by remaining unified and fighting him on everything. Their conference chairman, a then-obscure Indiana conservative named Mike Pence, underscored the point with a clip from Patton, showing the general rallying his troops for war against their Nazi enemy: “We’re going to kick the hell out of him all the time! We’re going to go through him like crap through a goose!”
    This strategy of kicking the hell out of Obama all the time, treating him not just as a president from the opposing party but an extreme threat to the American way of life, has been a remarkable political success. It helped Republicans take back the House in 2010, the Senate in 2014, and the White House in 2016. This no-cooperation, no-apologies approach is also on the verge of delivering a conservative majority on the Supreme Court; Republicans violated all kinds of Washington norms when they refused to even pretend to consider any Obama nominee, but they paid no electoral price for it—and probably helped persuade some reluctant Republican voters to back Donald Trump in November by keeping the Court in the balance.

    Before Obama even took office, when official Washington was counseling cooperation and moderation for a party that seemed to be on a path to oblivion, Cantor and McConnell laid out their strategies of all-out opposition at private GOP meetings. And on just about every issue, from Obamacare to climate to education reforms that conservatives supported until Obama embraced them, Republicans have embraced that strategy.


     
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    Couldn’t agree more.
     
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    They didn't BOW DOWN TO HIM they NEGOTIATED and he with them and I gave you such examples and they held him to the agreements. Are you denying the sequester and austerity that cut the deficit in half?

    McConnell optimistic on deals with Obama
    Senate Minority Leader McConnell sounded optimistic on NBC’s Meet the Press Sunday that Republicans will come to an agreement with President Obama that would allow current tax rates to continue.
    https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna40517039

    And they did.

    Who wasn't so willing to negotiate?

    Budget Deal Done, Obama and Congress Go Their Own ways
    Published December 23, 2015 • Updated on December 23, 2015 at 4:06 am

    Five days after Paul Ryan was sworn in as House speaker, the White House promised to invite him to meet President Barack Obama for a perfunctory but traditional photo opportunity. It would be a chance for the leaders to shake hands for the cameras and exchange pledges to work together.

    Ryan never got that invitation.
    https://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news...-obama-and-congress-go-their-own-ways/113745/
     
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    It was nice they came to the table when they were getting exactly what they wanted, but that was not always the case. Obama proposed corporate tax cuts 3 times, and was rejected 3 times. He proposed building a wall at the border, and was rejects.

    It's no secret that the GOP agreed to oppose Obama across the board.
     
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    He proposed cutting the corporate tax rate but making up the lost revenue by eliminating deductions and and changing tax of inventory and carried interest. He merely continued the Bush43 wall building building less than half what Bush43 had built and of course we know how the Dems stopped Trump from building more of the walling he wanted to build and how Biden just let the materials sit there and our borders be overrun.
     
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    I'll go with republicans because the understand a rising tide lifts all of the boats.
     
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    Sinking tide lowers all boats, like we saw with Bush and Trump.

    Lot of people are opposed to seeing the two parties co-operate, which explains why they keep voting for more division.
     
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    Obama worked with Republicans a lot, so much that there were Cartoons like this

    Republicans would threaten to hurt the Americans people, and Obama had no choice - only Republicans to that

    even the 911 first responders, could not believe republicans tried to do that
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    Republicans believe tax cuts for the rich trickle down, they just raise the debt

    we need to go back to what taxes were under Reagan
     
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    That makes an assumption that all our boats are approximately equal.

    What difference does it make to someone trying to survive in a dingy if the tide lifts his "boat" the same as the Mega Yacht?
     
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    In other words, brand new American fascism.;)
     
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    Call it what ever you want to......it is not a" shadow government at the very least". We are the "deplorables" and we will win this time!
     
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    Define "shadow government".
     
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    It's when the President becomes a mere figurehead and others do his speeches and he just reads them via teleprompter.. Un elected bureaucrats actually call the shots and prop him up. Hell, Biden hasn't had a cabinet meeting since October! No wonder Milley went missing!
     
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    So who is propping up the Orange one?
     
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    Stands on his own.
     
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    :roflol:

    Hardly...LOL.
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    Barely

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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Your timing is impeccable. Here is how a man stands while yours is hoping Mommy Jill will take him for ice cream!
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Looks like his secret service staff, but he stands on his own.
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