Which will rule the West in 50 years? Islam or Marxism?

Another great example of how common sense has now been almost completely bred out of our society. Once upon a time, that was herp derp. Today, it's ground-breaking. In fact, I'm honestly surprised it's not considered "hate speech."

The baby boomers were the first spoiled brat generation. They left my generation with the cynical '90s. I thought it was a passing trend at the time, but we've never rebounded. The country has only gotten dumber, angrier, more disconnected, more negative, and less responsible since. And we're continuing on a downward trajectory. Every decade now looks more and more like Mike Judge's movie Idiocracy.

 

This is why I think Islam has a firmer grasp on the problem. People who don't share the most basic and necessary principles of Islam (in other words, non-Muslims) are not granted equal rights. They are free to follow their religion and are even allowed their own courts- but they are not 'citizens.'

Europe can allow Muslims (or whatever) to work and live in their countries, and even become citizens. But those who are diametrically opposed to the ideals of a certain European state should not be given the citizenship.

Sure, it's not democratic, but it's a much better alternative than genocide.

 

If there's any hope to be had it's that in another 2000 or so years we'll have picked up the pieces again and be more advanced than we are now, assuming we continue with this cycle we appear to be in the process of repeating.

Of course you and all your forseeable descendants will be dead by then so it doesn't do much for you, but with things like this we have to think in the long term.

 

The essence of a bonfire is preserved in even a tiny candleflame.

All that is necessary is for a very few to join together in keeping that flame alive.

 

There was also a time when the idea that the sun revolved around the earth was herp derp. And we could name many other examples of obvious notions that were similarly wrong: the idea that homosexuality was malleable and could be cured; the idea that the Earth was 6000 years old; the notion that ulcers were caused primarily by stress rather than Helicobacter pylori.

Appeals to convention and "obviousness" are empty. Those of us who prefer to base our opinions on reason and evidence are appreciative of scientific facts when we can get them.

 

Yeah this is possible Albert . Maybe laser guns and unmanned robots or beaming each other into space .

 

Correction .

Marxism= Oppression and expropriation of the Capitalist Class and the Middle class dross that doesn't support the Working Class.

Socialism = Advanced Capitalist Global Economy and Workers Governments to suppress the Capitalists ,that's a PLANNED efficient Harmonious Global economy ,not Capitalist Market Anarchy in Production and distribution .

Next 50Years .ummmm

Socialism developing towards Communism or WW3 has taken Place and it doesn't Matter Take your choice .

Capitalism is well GONSKI either way!

 

How can we convince our leaders to be moral when the society that produces them is amoral?

 

You are confusing common sense with conventional wisdom. There is a vast difference between the two. Conventional wisdom is simply parroting what you hear around you everyday without questioning it. Common sense is hitting yourself in the head with a hammer three times and recognizing that it's not going to feel any better on the fourth try.

Common sense is the act of utilizing prudence to retain knowledge acquired from empirical observation. Conventional wisdom is the rejection of any empirical observation that might threaten the comfort of the status quo.

 

What you are talking about as being obvious is conventional wisdom, not common sense.

Lil Mike: "Men and Women are different," a stunning new scientific discovery that had long been know before the boomers were thought of.

Unifier: Another great example of how common sense has now been almost completely bred out of our society. Once upon a time, that was herp derp. Today, it's ground-breaking.

The idea that men and women are the same, or are different, is no different from the idea that the earth revolves around the sun, or vice-versa. Without observing what men and women are like when roles are equalized, it is not at all clear whether meaningful sex differences exist independently of cultural habit.

It was ground breaking when studies established genuine neurological differences between males and females that appear even in infancy. It was also groundbreaking when studies verified the totally counterintuitive phenomena of time dilation near light speeds, quantum entanglement, and the acceleration of the universe's expansion. If more people realized all of the deeply weird principles science has uncovered, they would not need me even to point these things out. The universe is a strange place.

Then, common sense means waiting for empirical observation to be made before jumping to conclusions supporting conventional wisdom. Because conventional wisdom holds that we can easily know exactly where an object is and exactly how fast it is going, and that time moves at the same rate for everybody. Conventional wisdom - of the exact kind that held that "Oh, everybody's known for thousands of years that men and women are different" - may be better than nothing, but it isn't particularly useful for understanding the world we live in.

 

Because any Citizen of our Republic is charged with obeying our own laws.

 

It can be both. Basically, we're extreme because the establishment isn't changing at all, and also because of where it is on the political spectrum.

 

Any form of "arresting human development" is bound to engender forms of cognitive dissonance the farther away morals are "detached" from their Age. In other words, how many Iron Age morals are still as useful in our modern Information Age?

 

The most likely scenario is that the USA will be ruled by very large multinational corporations and to a lesser extent by some form of world government. This is assuming no widespread use of WMDs occurs. Marxism is a spent force and even Socialism is in decline, while extreme Islam doesn't have the right mindset to come out on top, even though it can cause massive problems while Muslims and the rest of the world realize that.

 

Three ideologies will rule the world: Islamofascism in the Middle East/Europe/Africa/India, full-on Marxism in the Western Hemisphere, and Communo-Fascism in Asia.

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Corporations?
You've got to be (*)(*)(*)(*)ting me.

 

Why not? There may be a puppet Congress left, or some kind of military junta, but that's likely who will really be in charge. They have a lot more power than they did 50 years ago and the predominant ideology of America is pro-Big-Business, so why shouldn't very large multinational corporations have a lot more power 50 years from now?

 

The predominant ideology of America is pro-Big Brother, pro-government-interference, and pro-authoritarian state.

When was the last time a corporation committed mass genocide without the blessing and guidance of its master, the State?

Exactly.