Whistleblowers: FBI targeted parents via terrorism tools despite Garland's testimony that it didn't

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by Joe knows, May 11, 2022.

  1. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2010
    Messages:
    114,547
    Likes Received:
    41,423
    Trophy Points:
    113
    How dare Democrats investigate school board threats! Lol
     
    Hey Now likes this.
  2. Hey Now

    Hey Now Banned

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2021
    Messages:
    21,124
    Likes Received:
    17,010
    Trophy Points:
    113
    That's how it should work. Problem lies with most new GOP and Trump die hards, they believe this should be applied one sided and to specific groups while giving a pass to 'fellow' partisans.
     
    Last edited: May 16, 2022
    The Mello Guy and mdrobster like this.
  3. Joe knows

    Joe knows Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2021
    Messages:
    15,823
    Likes Received:
    11,680
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Some of them didn’t threaten anyone as shown in the article. What should be done about those who falsely reported threats

    secondly… why did garland and the Whitehouse lie about it if it weren’t an abuse of power? Some literally were investigated just because they didn’t like the parents not because they have a threat.
     
    Last edited: May 16, 2022
    XXJefferson#51 likes this.
  4. Joe knows

    Joe knows Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2021
    Messages:
    15,823
    Likes Received:
    11,680
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    It should work like this huh? Parents that done no threat should be investigated just because of a false statement? Have you ever heard the phrase reasonable suspicion?
     
    XXJefferson#51 likes this.
  5. mdrobster

    mdrobster Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 11, 2011
    Messages:
    35,518
    Likes Received:
    14,015
    Trophy Points:
    113
    It is if they do it electronically.
     
  6. Hey Now

    Hey Now Banned

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2021
    Messages:
    21,124
    Likes Received:
    17,010
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Yes, the police and the FBI should investigate all threats to life and liberty.
     
  7. Yulee

    Yulee Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 24, 2016
    Messages:
    10,497
    Likes Received:
    6,521
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I’m completely fine with the FBI investigating. Why are you not fine?
     
    Hey Now likes this.
  8. Joe knows

    Joe knows Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2021
    Messages:
    15,823
    Likes Received:
    11,680
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    The courts have said numerous times that police can’t just detain someone without reasonable suspicion. Detaining is defined as stopped by force. It’s not just arresting, it’s making someone stop to even answer questions. You can always refuse questioning if you’re not being detained. If you are being detained they can hold you for a certain amount of time or until they press charges. Stopping these parents to ask them questions based on a false claim is not reasonable suspicion and therefore an illegal stop/detainment.

    But…. Congress passed the patriot act. (Rotten pukes), anyway, this changes the laws for those deemed terroristic threats. So these lies put someone under a different umbrella. They can hold you longer with no proof, the reasonable suspicion blanket is much more broad.

    This attempt to put parents in as terrorists was very intentional so these pukes in a school board meeting could get away with false statements
     
    Last edited: May 16, 2022
    XXJefferson#51 likes this.
  9. Joe knows

    Joe knows Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2021
    Messages:
    15,823
    Likes Received:
    11,680
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Explained in my comment above. It’s not the investigation, it’s the terror name they gave them
     
    XXJefferson#51 likes this.
  10. Hey Now

    Hey Now Banned

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2021
    Messages:
    21,124
    Likes Received:
    17,010
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You continue to try to reframe my posts to tie it to your position. Please don't, my posts are very specific to threats made to life and liberty.
     
  11. Hey Now

    Hey Now Banned

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2021
    Messages:
    21,124
    Likes Received:
    17,010
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Domestic terrorism. Look up definitions.
     
  12. mdrobster

    mdrobster Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 11, 2011
    Messages:
    35,518
    Likes Received:
    14,015
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Wtf are "terrorism tools" ?

    Electronic surveillance started with the Patriot Act and then the NSA.

    Keep playing the victim.
     
  13. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2010
    Messages:
    114,547
    Likes Received:
    41,423
    Trophy Points:
    113
    False report should be prosecuted.
    What lie are you claiming they told?
     
  14. grapeape

    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2015
    Messages:
    19,205
    Likes Received:
    10,894
    Trophy Points:
    113
    its LITERALLY in the OP:

    So you dont think this person should even be investigated ? You cannot be serious ?

    Yeah, and this from the bastion of law and order Jim Jordan ;)
     
    The Mello Guy likes this.
  15. grapeape

    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2015
    Messages:
    19,205
    Likes Received:
    10,894
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Wrong, Schools get federal funds ;)
     
  16. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2010
    Messages:
    114,547
    Likes Received:
    41,423
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I’m against drone strikes on these threatening parents. Is that what they mean?
     
  17. ButterBalls

    ButterBalls Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2016
    Messages:
    54,641
    Likes Received:
    41,183
    Trophy Points:
    113
    First rule of thumb with the DNC, LIE HUGE, Retract small when confronted with real facts ;)
     
    Joe knows likes this.
  18. ButterBalls

    ButterBalls Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2016
    Messages:
    54,641
    Likes Received:
    41,183
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Embellish, sensationalize the ridiculous and hope for a leftist reaction. Never works on the intelligent and informed, but we love to watch the song and dance ;)
     
    Last edited: May 16, 2022
    XXJefferson#51 likes this.
  19. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2010
    Messages:
    114,547
    Likes Received:
    41,423
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Agree yet these threads keep getting posted.
     
  20. Joe knows

    Joe knows Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2021
    Messages:
    15,823
    Likes Received:
    11,680
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    It’s in my OP. They accused a parent of threatening and that they had guns both of which the accuser admitted to lying.
     
  21. Joe knows

    Joe knows Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2021
    Messages:
    15,823
    Likes Received:
    11,680
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    They never actually threatened anyone as per my OP (the examples in the OP), yet they were investigated and the accuser later admitted the accused never threatened and wasn’t truly sure they had guns at all. That’s not a threat, that’s a false statement
     
    XXJefferson#51 likes this.
  22. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2010
    Messages:
    114,547
    Likes Received:
    41,423
    Trophy Points:
    113
    If they lied they should be charged for filing a false report. Surely you don’t blame the fbi for someone lyin to them?
     
  23. Joe knows

    Joe knows Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2021
    Messages:
    15,823
    Likes Received:
    11,680
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I’m aware of the definition. But just because these school board members claimed they made threats (which they later admitted was a lie) they were investigated. Same thing as doxing… are you going to defend these false statements and the clear abuse of power?
     
  24. Joe knows

    Joe knows Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2021
    Messages:
    15,823
    Likes Received:
    11,680
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I believe they did not have reasonable suspicion. (The standard for an investigation)
     
  25. Kal'Stang

    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2015
    Messages:
    18,515
    Likes Received:
    14,752
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Just because they get federal funds doesn't make a crime occurring a federal issue. If a child is caught with drugs do they call the FBI? Or the local police?
     
    XXJefferson#51 likes this.

Share This Page