White House Blocks Anthony Fauci From Testifying

Nobody is disagreeing with what you are saying NOW but Congress does not supervise or "execute the orders" of Congress. He also is NOT an employee of Congress. Trump was hired by the people that voted for him. The Congress has oversight but not supervisory powers. Trump is exercising his executive and constitutional power as president to assert executive privilege. Congress does not over ride that power.

 

Besides semantics , what is the difference between Oversight and Supervision?

Trump is an employee of the people, (ALL the people, not just those who voted for him). He is supervised by the Congress.

 

It's more than semantics. There is a huge difference between oversight and supervision. Oversight is review and monitoring. Supervision is both monitoring and directing. The Congress doesn't direct or tell him what to do or how to do it. His job is set regardless of Congress. He has his own agenda that he ran on and was elected to work towards. Congress could have a different agenda than the president. They don't set his agenda. Trump can tell them to piss off if they want to ask his staff or cabinet about deliberations between the president and that person.

 

But doesn't the Congress direct the President what to do in the laws that it passes? He has admittedly a very wide latitude in how he enforces them, that is the main way he can check Congress. He must, however, enforce these laws in some way or manner nonetheless, that is his job overall.

I disagree with you and with Trump in that the President can do anything he pleases. I don't believe the Constitution says that anywhere.

And where does the Constitution say that the President has an "agenda" at all? The Congress clearly has one, because they make laws and laws direct actions but the President's role their is much less clear. The President acts on the People's behalf, checking or aiding Congress as he thinks the people would wish but that is definitely not to say he has a legitimate agenda of his own

 

The laws of congress ARE direction.

Trump clearly sees himself as boh above and immune to the other two branches of our government.

But, he's just plain wrong. And, his efforts to ignore our constitution on that issue can't be simply ignored if we want to continue being guided by that document.

 

For openers:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/do...w-york-law-allowing-congress-get-his-n1033056

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...sswomen-prison-like-child-migrant-center.html

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...se-democrats-supreme-court-decide/3987075002/

 

Please show me where I said he can do anything he pleases? Everyone has to abide by the law so according to your philosophy everyone in the US is supervised by Congress. Congress doe not supervise the president and the president isn't an employee of the Congress.

 

You are another one that thinks the president is an employee of the congress I guess. Just because the president has to enforce and follow laws doesn't mean the president works for and is supervised by Congress. He is not subservient to Congress. That's just stupid.

 

Be more specific rather than just throwing links out there. That is just lazy. If there is a point in the links point to those specific points in the links. I am not going to play that guessing game trying to read your mind about what point in the article you are referring to.

 

The constitution does indicate that congress has oversight of the executive branch. Thus there are a number of oversight committees in congress with oversight responsibility for different functions of the executive branch.

And, the president is required to follow the laws which congress makes.

 

translation: LogNDog likes to make assertions, allegations and accusations, but refrains from actually READING ANY MATERIAL that may contradict his world view or beliefs. The chronology of the posts shows his folly.

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...from-testifying.571967/page-3#post-1071655506
He's done.

 

You haven't posted your tax returns on PF. Why not?

 

We have 3 co-equal branches of government. Pelosi has stated that her prime goal is to disrupt the Trump Administration. Other House Democrats have stated that their prime purpose of oversight is to win the 2020 election. The committees can subpoena anything and anyone they want. If Trump doesn't want to make it easy for the socialists, the socialists can use the court system to compel compliance. If Trump loses at the district level, he can appeal. If he loses at the appellate level, he can appeal to the supreme court.

Why should he make it easy for the socialists whose main goal is to misrepresent anything they see and leak cherry picked misrepresentations to the media? He's doing a great job of asserting his rights, the rights of the people and the intentions of the founders.

 

Nope...you're thinking of Moscow Mitch publicly stating that was his agenda during the Obama Administration.

Number one goal was making Obama a one term President...remember that?

 

McConnell wanted to prevent Obama from turning the US into Venezuela. Change that had the founders' heads exploding in their graves. With the help of the socialist media, leftists have been teaching Maduro and Xi the ins and out censorship and other features of socialism.

 

You admit what Moscow Mitch did amd excuse it because you agree with him

oh

 

Geez Nancy and company have been home eating ice cream and the first thing they want to do when they get back is take the guy workin on stopping tv the spread from his job.

 

Of course...that’s the goal of the losing the losing party all the time

 

When has he ignored a court order or ignored a law?

wasn’t it the house dems that attempted to impeach Trump because he challenged them in Court?

 

"The laws of Congress are direction."

Not necessarily. Yes, the President is entrusted to "faithfully execute the laws of the United States.", but HOW those laws are executed is called 'discretion', and that discretion is up to the President in question.

Example: Federal assistance funds, how those funds are distributed during Katrina during the Bush Administration. It was certainly incompetent, but it wasn't *illegal*. Failure to execute isn't the same as refusing to execute.

Likewise, as it turned out Puerto Rico was stealing and hiding funds. So it turned out the Trump Administration had went above and beyond the call.(frankly, it makes me want to drop Puerto Rico as a protectorate.)


Because of discretion, no the President doesn't have to give every document that crosses his desk(which is essentially now classified.), nor should he have to be summoned down every time Nancy Pelosi has a tantrum.

Before Democrats think about winning in November, they need to take a REAL, HARD look at their leadership. Is Pelosi really leadership quality(hint: She isn't), and neither is Schumer and the Justice Democrats are a sordid disappointment in that regard.

Democrats have a real leadership problem. Who's going to step up to revive the blue coalition of middle class workers? There was an Ohio Democrat(I forgot his name) who was challenging for democratic majority leader after the election. He promoted blue coalition values and had he won, you probably would be in a better position to defeat Trump.

 

The Right-wing is already broadcasting vicious Fauci conspiracy video hit pieces. The Trump gangsters has co-opted anti-vaccine conspiracy agitation groups as allies against Dr. Fauci.

Dr. Fauci should leave the Trump administration as soon as possible to save himself from being prosecuted for crimes against humanity along with the Trump mafia-fascist administration. As the bodies pile up Trump, and the Republicans are going to be desperate for a scapegoat. Dr. Fauci did the best he could under the circumstances, and could of beat this like he did with the AIDS epidemic.

 

List the Impeachment Articles against Obama....

 

The topic has to do with Trump's assault on science.

He's continuing to take explicit action to prevent congress and citizenry from being informed about this pandemic.

And, I really doubt you want to disccuss leadership quality at present.

 

As I said, the President is an employee of the people but the people are represented by the Congress (or are supposed to be). In a sense the Congress does supervise all of us as that is the major function of government. Like with the President it's a very loose supervision but a supervision nonetheless.

 

There is nothing stopping Fauci yelling from his lungs that "We're all gonna die!" if that's the case. Seriously, people act like Trump has him on lock and control or something. And I do want to discuss leadership quality.

Decisions made by the Democratic Party from 2014-2016, up to the present day has led to Trump. The irrational hatred for Trump(while trying to pretend its something other than hatred), and the ineffectiveness of the legislative work as a result has led to our political dysfunction.

Let's say that it's true that Trump has covered up everything and his "inadequate" response led to deaths. The prior impeachment + the current situation means you couldn't impeach him anyway. And you have Joe Biden, who clearly isn't the strongest candidate the Democrats could've put to defeat Trump.

If Democrats were ruled by policy and not disliking of Trump, I think Dems have a much stronger shot at 2020, I also think we're less polarized.

It's time for a change of the guard inside of the Democratic Party, not just to defeat Trump but to revive the party's standing in the long run.