White travel ban

From 1975-2015 3 Americans have been killed in acts of terrorism committed by refugees.

https://www.cato.org/…/…/terrorism-immigration-risk-analysis


Similarly a grand total of 0 people have been killed on American soil by terrorists from any the countries on the banned list.

https://www.cato.org/blog/little-national-security-benefit-trumps-executive-order-immigration


On the other hand, more than 3,000 people in America are killed every year by white people.

https://ucr.fbi.gov/…/expanded_homicide_data_table_6_murder…


It is an epidemic!! As a safety precaution, I hope Trump at least considers banning all white people from America. If that is not possible, at least seriously consider a travel ban on all people who were born in any majority white country. I don't say this out of any animosity or bigotry of course, I am just very concerned about the safety of the American people... And it is objectively true that there is no greater threat to the safety of American people than white people!!

 

In fact it i Blacks who are murdering people moreso than Whites. Therefore, using your logic, it is Blacks who should be banned from entering, making the provisional laws regarding these seven countries quite logical.

 

In Europe the series of terrorist acts has been executed, after an onset of uncontrolled immigration
Even if we assume that all citizens of those countries are good people, the professional terrorist can get in under disguise of refuges.
We have to understand that at least six of those seven countries are lawless lands, where bad people can obtain any kind of documents.
Until we establish decent process of vetting refuges we can't let anyone from those countries to come here.

 

In fact, that is is not a fact. As I said, white people objectively kill more Americans than any other group, and it isn't that close either.

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u....f_vicitm_by_race_and_sex_of_offender_2013.xls

 

Ireland was full of terrorists during the 1970s and 1980s.

and yet we didn't ban the Irish.

 

We have a spectacularly thorough vetting process already!! It takes two years and background checks done by multiple security agencies to get into the US as a refugee.


https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/01/29/us/refugee-vetting-process.html?_r=0

http://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...fugees-trump-extreme-vetting-column/97043442/

 

I guess this country should just ban all people. Except maybe Asians.

 

A 2-4 yr vetting process with near 1/2 dozen interviews at various levels is not enough?
Even though, as the OP said, we've not had a single refugee attack in 30 yrs.

 

If we would have only known about the 9 11 terrorists and could have banned people from the nation they left to get here, we could have saved thousands of lives, and trillions in war spending. Of course if Bush would have put into place a ban, he could have saved so many lives.

Truth is, we do not know where the next attacker will come from. But if you wanted to try to avoid a future attack, what trump is doing is a start. It is a reasonable and smart thing to do, if you really want to save lives going into the future. Or you can gamble with American lives as the trump haters want to do. Some of us do not want to gamble with lives. The sane, decent, people.

 

Using your link, it appears that blacks have killed more than any other race.unless you insist on counting Hispanic/Latino as white.

 

Your own link does not bode well for blacks.

Did you ever think that the reason our terror murders are comparatively low is because we don't have that many of them here yet?

FACT: If we didn't have any Mexicans in this country there would be no murders committed by Mexicans. Same thing with Italians and Eskimos.

I don't know the number, but how many murders worldwide do you think Muslims commit?

 

While you sit there sucking on your pacifier, freaking out about these refugees from these lawless lands that have been lawless lands for as long as we can remember, we have a two year vetting program for refugees during the Obama administration, that has worked out perfectly. And by Trump planting this manufactured crisis and getting his drones all stirred up, we will award him with a law suit that he is also going to lose.

Speaking of foreign policy goof ups, have you heard about Trumps Yemen disaster he screwed up? Can we say "Trump's "Benghazi"?

 

If they can wait 2 years then why do you object to an additional 120 days from places you admit are lawless? Even our national security people say it's impossible to properly vet these people and terrorists are mingling in with regular refugees. And this is just from the other side of the Atlantic. What about all the crimes and murders committed by the illegals Obama allowed in?

How does allowing these people into our country benefit us?

 

It doesn't benefit the United States of America and so the salient question arises, "Why DO so very very many leftists pretty much HATE the United States of America to the extent that they WANT to make this nation as vulnerable as possible?"

 

Actually it's not. The ban will be overturned and you'll be back to your play dough and cry rooms.

 

Not according to the law.

 

I think you're looking at the data wrong. Check this link that offers data by race (2015), same source as your link.

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u....murder_offenders_by_age_sex_and_race_2015.xls

 

Law is not on your side. Key word is TEMPORARY. Cry me a river and be sure and buy play dough.

 

That's because the Northern Ireland dispute had nothing to do with the US. And thankfully any Irish immigrants didn't want to bring that crap over to the secular USA. That's why we must remain a secular and free country. I'm more concerned about Trump being a far-right Christian President, then I am over the EO. That's more dangerous to our country than the EO.

 

I don't know how you vet someone who has no birth certificate, no drivers license, no school records, etc.

 

Simple. You do it the leftist way. You go by melanin ratio count. The darker the skin tone the more decent they are as human beings. Wellllllll . . . mainly by skin tone, but if they demonstrate the ability to spit on the U.S. flag accurately from ten paces away then that is both a bonus and a mitigating factor. Instantly they are accepted even if their skin tone is not P.C. enough.

 

What people? You mean all those people before "these" people who were let in, or not let in, illegals, legals, or refugees, who became productive citizens from the past?

Let's see, 730 days plus an extra 120? Lol! Can we say manufactured crisis to fulfill a campaign promise by Trump to ban Muslims?

 

Liberalism is a disease, it really is. I started a thread asking why is diversity a good thing and no one can really tell me why.

 

I'll bet vetting was pretty tough during the Ellis Island days too?

 

Because it involves "WE". You know, "we the people". The preamble to the U.S. Constitution ring a bell for you?