Who called Trump a dictator?

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  1. yangforward

    yangforward Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not me. Donald has already been President for one four year term
    and showed no signs of being a dictator or obeying the deep state.

    He wanted to leave Afghanistan but was advised the situation was
    stable and it would be a bad idea at that time, and in 2020 only
    4 died in action.

    Then came Biden and a war in Ukraine, lots of weapons supplied
    to Israel including big 2,000 high explosive bombs perfect for
    reinforced concrete structures such as large apartment buildings
    and hospitals.

    And Biden is trying to get a war started near the Pacific, either with
    China or with N. Korea, and has got the public chaffing at the bit for
    both.
     
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    yangforward Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Did anyone call Donald a dictator?

    Yes, a once very respected periodical - The Atlantic

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    In June 2006, the Chicago Tribune named The Atlantic one of the top ten English-language
    magazines, describing it as the "150-year-old granddaddy of periodicals" because "it keeps
    us smart and in the know"

    But the Atlantic relocated from Boston and New York to join their advertising section
    in Washington DC.

    Sounding 'smart' is no longer the same as being 'smart'.
     
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    JohnHamilton Well-Known Member

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    The Democrats called him a dictator when he made the mistake of ranting on too long about the results of the 2020 election. Was there cheating? Probably. Was there enough to turn the result? I don't know, but Trump should have taken a page from Andrew Jackson's play book after he lost the 1824 election in the House of Representatives.

    Henry Clay, who was Speaker of the House. helped engineer a win for John Quincy Adams. Adams then appointed Clay to be Secretary of State which was then viewed as a stepping stone to the presidency. Every president, except George Washington, had been Secretary of State up until that time.

    Adams declared that there had been "a corrupt bargain" between Clay and Adams. It was the Democrats rallying cry.

    In the 1828 election, Jackson gave Adams a drubbing and was elected president. Here's an 1828 Jackson campaign medalet.

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    yangforward Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Don't be surprised if you find some people who ought to know better talking
    convoluted nonsense.

    Biden has apparently caused the nation far more harm than Donald Trump
    did. Yes, the COVID expenses were very high but Donald said it would soon
    be gone and though there are a lot of people on both sides of the argument,
    there is still no clear evidence that he was wrong.

    And there are people who claim it is just happen chance that the war in Ukraine
    started 13 months into Biden's term, and the war in the Middle East heated up
    a lot, and Biden bragged he can fight wars on two fronts and defend the US.
     
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    It stems from an interview where Hannity asked him if he would be one and the former President said only on day one. So in effect Trump did, but I doubt he was serious.

    He is however talking about things that amke people nervious such as replacing many government workers with his people, his selection of Judges for political affiliation rather than ability, doing away with treaties and obligations etc.
     
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    yangforward Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And the Biden Administration has told Ukraine to allow US contractors in
    Ukraine to launch US made missiles controlled by US satellite navigation
    with US UAV guidance, at civilian or military targets in Russia, that direct
    attacks by the US on Russia from Ukraine are acceptable.

    By that measure and the US confiscating 300 billion dollars from Russia,
    the US has been at war with Russia for more than a year.

    But only last month after the US missile attack on Sevastopol (Russian
    since 1783) did Russia finally state that it is no longer 'at peace' with
    the US.
     
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    Most definitely. Biden's open border is going to haunt this country for years. The number of terrorists he has let in too high to count. Many people are going to die and be injured because of Biden.
     
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    yangforward Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is true that Donald Trump is not a measured speaker, but interestingly he gets along
    well with the Russians who do measure their words carefully.

    I'm not sure the Biden neocons get on well with anyone.

    And I don't listen to the news but I get bits from the margin of my browser, but I notice
    an overall trend from 4 servicemen dying in Afghanistan in Don's last year as President
    to about 50 in Ukraine, plus other NATO staff, plus a lot of American contractors, but
    nobody really cares about mercenaries.
     
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    yangforward Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't pay much attention to the crap people in Washington say.

    But I do notice their actions.
     
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    Someone did say he would be a dictator on day one. I don't recall who that was though. :rolleyes:

    As I'm sure I've told you before, the war in Ukraine started in 2014, and has very little to do with any US President, then or since. And the US government has been unilaterally supporting and supplying weapons to Israel for decades now, regardless of who has been in office.

    Nobody is trying to start a war in the Pacific.
     
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    Do you have the full and accurate quote with context rather than the inaccurate distortion you posted? It looks like you’re falling into the fine people, bloodbath, inject bleach maze.
     
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    He openly proclaimed his desire to be a dictator.

    At the end of his regieme he fomented an insurrection plot which would have installed him regardless of the vote.

    Of course, you did not SAY he wanted to be one.

    ‘But that’s what he wants.

    And you’re cheering for it, in cowardly two faced way most Trumpsters do.
     
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    Nobody is interested in playing your little parsing game.

    Trump has always had baronial fantasies. He wants to be a dictator, regardless of any phony context.

    You’re cheering for that outcome, even as you dance around admitting it.
     
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    He does what Putin tells him to do,


    And, of course, hecolluded with them regularly, They have always been in the driver’s seat in that relationship.
     
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    Do you have the full and accurate quote with context rather than the inaccurate distortion you posted? It looks like you’re falling into the fine people, bloodbath, inject bleach maze.
     
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    If you’re voting for Biden then you’re voting for Obama’s fourth term. Tell me more about this dictator stuff.
     
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    Jackson went on to destroy the Bank of the United States, thus depriving the nation of a way to regulate its money supply.

    He followed this up with his Specie Circular, which demanded that all Federal debts be paid in gold. Since there was very little hard currency anywhere in the country, especially west of the Alleghenies, the economy collapsed, giving the nation its first Depression.
     
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    You’ve already been told that no one is playing your parsing game.
     
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    Id call this one a lie, but it’s too ridiculous!
     
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    You intentionally lie about what was said and, let me guess, you believe your lie is the truth. Why else wouldn't you provide the full quote in context?
     
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    His new VP Vance called Trump 'America's Hitler'

    I guess Republicans are the only ones allowed freedom of speech.
     
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    Yes. He was asked whether he would use the powers of the Presidency for retribution and he ignored that to talk about being a dictator on day one to "build the wall" and "drill, drill, drill". The point is that the word "dictator" wasn't in the question but he brought it up himself, which makes it somewhat ironic to object to other people using it about him too.
     
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    It's pretty obvious Donald was saying he has a lot to do on day one and
    would give out tasks as fast as he could, acting like a dictator,

    but of course, if there aren't the votes in Congress then they wouldn't
    get passed.

    A President doesn't have to power to be a dictator, but the most
    powerful lobbies can play the whole US government like a violin.
     
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    Maybe he got struck by lightening.
     
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    And Harris called Biden a racist. The difference is Trump will never be Hitler and Biden is a racist.
     
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