Who called Trump a dictator?

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  1. Eddie Haskell Jr

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    I can find plenty more examples of Trump racist than Biden. But I guess it's expected that Trump is racist. Again, Republicans can get away with anything and not held to same standards as Democrats.
     
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    Anyone who thinks, or says, any president is going to be a dictator is not very intelligent.
     
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    Trump himself did in a campaign speech. He literally said, "I will be a dictator for a day."
     
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    You should know better than to imply what you are implying. Besides, there is no way a USA president can become a dictator -- Anyone who understands how our government works, knows that. But I'll agree Trump has a big mouth.
    Trump during an event with Fox News host Sean Hannity told a crowd that he would be a dictator only on "day one," and then he's going to close the border and get to drilling.
     
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    Actually, there is a way. It would mean everyone in the President's circle is loyal to them. It has happened before with other countries who had democratic processes and separation of powers in their constitutions. Ours was the first, but it is not the only one with those ideas in place. Trump himself wants people loyal to him and Trump does not care about our laws or the US Constitution at all. To Trump, it's just a piece of paper, and we saw that with January 6th and the Georgia indictments. We also see this with Arizona indictments of election fraud with all of Trump's acolytes.
     
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    We should post a list here of every elected Democrat who has called him a dictator or anything similar. It would be a long list
     
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    This post sounds frankly insane to me. Terrorists? More like desperate ag workers.
     
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    Na the charge has always been he wants to be a dictator. Many statements by Trump support this. He has expressed admiration and jealousy towards actual dictators like Putin. He wishes he could deal with the media like Putin does.
     
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    And then the interest of time I wish we had a laugh rating button here but we don't...
     
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    And? So what. that's their opinion based on what Trump says. Maybe you should talk to Trump on what he says and how he says things instead of blaming others on what Trump has said.

    Your only two choices here are either you agree with what Trump says in his campaign speeches or you are totally oblivious on what Trump says in his campaign speeches. Take your pick
     
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    You don't get to present people with some ultimatum and declare that you yourself are the one that tells people what choices they have.

    Go take a hike with that. Maybe you can find someone on the trail to tell it to who might actually believe it
     
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    The most damning accusations I have heard about Trump are the one about the fake electors, and his demand for Pence to not accreditate the election.

    Can any Trump supporters here show me a good debunking of these claims? If they are true then that sounds like dictator stuff to me.
     
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    You need to research exactly what Trump said on January 6. Can you handle the truth?

    Heck, the list of the PF members who call Trump a dictator would be too long. Some folks are easy to brainwash.

    We have no way of knowing who is coming in. Maybe some ag workers, maybe some terrorists, maybe some criminals, maybe some drugs. Thanks Biden.
     
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    They only have catch phrases, you know, the typical stupid crap they spew "dictator", "end of democracy"
    As your post implies, it all falls flat since the person already has been a president and obviously, nothing to back it up. The only way the left gets votes is by pissing people off.
     
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    Actually, Teump routinely makes authoritarian comments, and claims he would be a dictator.

    The Hannity interview, where he deployed his “day one” line, was Trump’s idea of walking his previous comments back.

    This is a standard Trump tactic. Take the extreme position, and then try and walk it back. his base amplifies the walk back and denies the extremism.

    His record makes it clear that he will take the extreme position if he gets the chance.

    And the right wing swamp (Federalist and Heritage), are lining up.

    Besides, anyone who doesn’t understand that the first thing a “dictator on day one” will do is declare himself dictator for life is a special kind of fool.
     
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    The person has already been President, and his record of corruption, betrayal, and lawlessness followed up by threats of “retribution” fully justify those concerns.
     
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    It was an obvious joke. To think otherwise requires extreme bias.

    The more damning evidence against him is the slate of false electors and pressure he put on Pence to not certify the election. I don't understand why his detractors don't put all the focus on that.

    It's far more damning than jokes or the Jan 6 events that he was not present for.
     
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    We all know what Trump said, after the fact.

    We also know cwhat he and his henchmen said before it, and the noisy big lie campaign that preceded it.

    The world watched as a mob Trump helped incite, ransacked the Capitol

    ‘We also know that Trump wanted to be there, among “his people”.

    It was his betrayal.

    ‘Own your disgrace.
     
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    It was not a joke. You know it too.

    Indeed, the fake electors and the Jan 6th plot only emphasize that point.

    ‘Having people in that mob at the Convention, and featuring one of the architects of the Jan 6th plot provide plenty of reason for concern.
     
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    Yes, it very obviously was. Trying to twist things like that to make him look bad is a bad habit of his detractors, going back to the Russia Russia Russia days, and it only feeds Trump's "fake news" narrative.

    It feeds a boy who cried wolf sort of cover that he uses to duck away from actual legitimate concerns over him such as the false elector thing, which barely gets any media attention in contrast, and is ignored by centrists without looking into it due to all the false narratives against Trump.

    There I agree. That's a mistake.
     
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    Trump makes himself appear to be a wannbe tyrant without any help from anyone,

    Trump is charged in the fake elector scheme.

    One of the architects of that scheme was pro minutely given a speaking platform at the Convention. Trump henchmen and their fellow travelers at the Heritage Foundation are drawing up blueprints for the establishment of a modern day spoil’s system, answerable to Trump and Trump only.

    Several of Trump’s Jan 6ht henchmen called for Trump to declare marshal law, making him a de facto dictator.

    Of course, the threats of military tribunals persecuting political enemies and retribution are “jokes” too.
     
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    And speaking of dictators and coups, etc. Am I the only one that sees Obama, Pelosi, Jeffries, and Schumer as the players trying to pull a president down to install their own candidate without a competitive competition in the primaries?

    Even Gavin Newsom has been intimidated by the goon squad to fake loyalty and publicity remain a part of the joke.
     
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    HE DID!

    Hannity: "You are promising America you will never abuse power as retribution against anybody..."

    Trump: "Except for day one...Look he's going crazy...except for day one....I love this guy he says, "You're not going to be a dictator, I said no, no, no, except for DAY ONE."

    "One day" dictators are not a thing. Trump thinks people are so stupid they would think, oh yeah, dictator for only one day. THERE ARE NO ONE DAY DICTATORS.

    Trump says if reelected, he won't be a dictator 'other than Day One' (youtube.com)

    At rallies I have heard a half dozen Trumpers who were interviewed say they WANT TRUMP AS DICTATOR.

    Trump rally attendees getting worse, CHEER for dictatorship (youtube.com)
     
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    It was not a joke at all. Trump always acts like an authoritarian, he acts like a mob boss with a grudge against his enemies. For such a person to joke about being a dictator on DAY ONE (and ever after) shows his character.

    When a person jokes that his favorite thing was having sex with his daughter, that shows his true nature. Trump's superpower is to be brutally honest most of the time. E.G. "You can't say Chris Christy is a fat pig!" He goes on and on repeating the phrase "CHRISTY IS A FAT PIG!" by saying it is not a proper thing to say.

    When Trump answered the question from Wendy Williams on TV what the favorite thing he had in common with his daughter, he replied "Well...I was going to say SEX, but I can't because I blah, blah blah." His instinct is to answer honestly, then throw in a qualifier to make it sound OK. He was going to tell the truth, and say SEX was the favorite thing he had in common with Ivanka, but he can't say it because it sounds disgusting, and he throws in his trademark qualifier that you cannot even hear his reason why he can't tell the truth and say that SEX was the favorite thing he had in common with his daughter. This is the man who went on and on with Howard Stern about his physical attraction for his daughter.

    Donald Trump Tell Wendy Williams That He Has S.e.x In Common With Ivanka (youtube.com)

    Donald Trump's crude talk on The Howard Stern Show - YouTube

    Watch how Ivanka laughs about Trump as a sexual predator.

    Trump Laughed Off Being Called A Sexual Predator on Howard Stern 10 Years Ago (youtube.com)
     
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