I hear different things from different places. I watched the entire debate and did not think Trump was prepared. He was on the defensive much of the time and his attacks of Hillary were insubstantial. The media is having a bit of a field day (as they wanted) in part because Trump gave them lots of material. I dislike both candidates but a Trump benefit's me for selfish personal reasons. I do not think Trump did that horrible but, he certainly did not do well. Half the time I was sitting there saying "Say this, Say that". For example: The modern incarnation of ISIS was not due to a "power vacuum" in Iraq. The modern incarnation of ISIS is because Hillary was funding the extremist Islamist movement in Syria led by Al Nusra - an Al Qaeda group. After lining this up .. Trump could say - how can we defeat extremists like Al Qaeda/ the folks who did 911 and ISIS when you and our allies are arming and supporting them ? Syria is a colossal foreign policy fk-up .. and Trump should be hitting this note till the cows come home.
Here's more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/taliban-trump-debate_us_57ebcd92e4b0c2407cdaa047?section=& The Taliban Watched The Debate And Were Not Impressed By Trump Militant leaders followed closely from a secret location in Afghanistan. 09/28/2016 10:14 am ET MIKE SEGAR / REUTERS Republican U.S. presidential nominee Donald Trump and Democratic U.S. presidential nominee Hillary Clinton shake hands. Taliban leaders followed the U.S. presidential debate closely but heard nothing on Afghanistan, a spokesman said on Wednesday, adding that they were not impressed by Republican candidate Donald Trump, whom they considered “non-serious”. The leaders watched Monday’s televised debate from a secret location in Afghanistan, but neither Trump nor Democratic Party candidate Hillary Clinton talked about their intentions for the country, the spokesman, Zabihullah Mujahid, said by telephone. “The main thing that we would like the next U.S. president to do is to learn from the mistakes of their predecessors,” he said. “Why are they hated worldwide? It’s because of their aggressive polices. They invade other people’s countries and kill innocent human beings for their vested interests.” The election winner will have to decide future policy for what has been America’s longest war, started after the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001 triggered a U.S.-led campaign that toppled the Taliban government in Kabul. President Barack Obama this year shelved plans to halve the number of U.S. troops in Afghanistan and instead has kept 8,400 troops there until the end of his presidency, leaving further decisions to his successor. Zabihullah also had harsh words for Trump, a political newcomer who has attacked what he calls the failed policies of the Washington political classes. Taliban leaders considered Trump a “non-serious” candidate who said “anything that comes to his tongue,” the spokesman said. Both Obama, in whose administration Clinton served as Secretary of State, and former President George W. Bush had wasted 15 years and billions of dollars without being able to defeat the Taliban, he added. “There is a choice for the upcoming president, whether he or she would like to suffer human and financial losses to continue their invasion of Afghanistan or they want to let the people of Afghanistan decide their affairs,” Zabihullah said. “If the new president doesn’t change policy, the Taliban will continue their armed struggle until they are expelled from Afghanistan.” Also on HuffPost
By the way, did any of you guys see the PBS Frontline biography of Trump and Hillary? It was one of the most blatantly biased films I've ever seen. They portrayed Hillary as the feminist super warrior held back only by incompetent men, while Trump was portrayed as a psychopathic business failure. I didn't say it was fair, just that he didn't do as well as he needed to do. Hopefully he does better in the next debate. Yes, Hillary was only given softballs. Basically, everything you just said. I hope he does better next time around--he needs to win this.
Biased??? You would consider that assessment to be biased? I didn't see the thing...but if it actually slanted in that direction, I'd say it was not biased, but rather it was on the button.
Anyone who puts together a 2-hour long documentary and can't come up with a single negative thing to say about a presidential candidate is obviously full of crap. Could you, in all honesty, make a 2-hour documentary about a politician and not think of anything negative to say? That's how biased this documentary was.
Don't forget that she came off "not dead". Half the Trumpsters on this forum predicted that she would only last 30 minutes, would collapse, have a seizure, cough up a lung, get taken away on a stretcher etc. Where are all those predictions now? Where are all the people saying she is desperately ill? Because of the two, she looked like she had more stamina.
Americans' verdict on the relative performances in the first presidential debate is now being reflected in the national polls FiveThirtyEight's three models show the Democrat up to a 60.1% to 68.8% chance of being elected. http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/?ex_cid=rrpromo#plus A couple more days will further confirm the assessment.
So you are willing to put your comments into perspective based on the fact that there was NOTHING negative said about Hillary Clinton in that documentary, right? In other words, if even ONE THING negative is pointed out...you will be willing to acknowledge that you are wrong...correct? - - - Updated - - - By far! Donald Trump leaned on his podium much more than she...and she did not have the sniffles...while he did. At the end, she looked radiant...and happy. He looked like he had just lost a debate.
I didn't watch it but I saw the one CNN ran with and it was way over being bias. CNN basically endorsed Hillary and called for Trump to be deported.
Umm no. If they say ten negative things about Trump for every one negative comment about Hillary, I'll still call that biased. I'm not surprised. The liberal bias is so dominant and pervasive that we might a well just call it state propaganda. At this point, there is little difference between our media and the Chinese media, at least with respect to the mainstream. They sure do.
You do realize how petty and ridiculous you are being, right? Do you enjoy honest conversations, or do you prefer to use deception and underhanded tactics to attain brownie points? I liked a lot of what you had to say about libertarianism, but I'm surprised you are acting like this.
Acting like what? I am questioning what YOU WROTE: Here it is again: If you meant that they offered fewer negatives for Hillary than for Trump...THAT IS ONE THING. You certainly could have said that. But you were emphatic that they said NOTHING..."not a single negative thing" about Hillary. I questioned it...politely...even though I thought that suggesting that NOTHING negative was said about her was way over the line. And for you to resent me asking you about that...is disingenuous to me. You could have dealt with this ethically and with dispatch by simply saying..."okay, I was using hyperbole." Instead you are trying to make me the goat. Ain't gonna work!
Oh my god... This is why I don't participate as much as I used to. This place is just too polluted with nonsense and dishonesty, like the rest of the internet. I do not recall seeing anything negative, and that is why I'm not going to go on the record saying that there is absolutely nothing negative about Hillary in the documentary. I recall the entire documentary being negative toward Trump and positive toward Hillary--the narrative itself was favorable to Hillary. If there was one (wait, maybe there were TWO!!), does it really change the spirit of what I'm saying? No, of course it doesn't, but you never really cared about discussing this honestly and preferred to play childish games.
Apparently you consider me asking about an absolute statement...rendered twice in a short paragraph...to be playing childish games. If you are that thin-skinned, perhaps these kinds of discussions are not for you.
