"Who's gonna pay for Medicare for all?" is either stupid or disingenuous

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  1. 21Bronco

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    So, no examples you can provide. Noted.
     
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    You think you actually know what’s in the food you eat ? You only know the label on the package.
     
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    So you don’t know what infrastructure is. That’s silly.
    Really, I can quote a dictionary meaning to you on words you’ve never heard . You bear a little responsibility knowing the English language.
     
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    No, you only had a choice of eating a food called a taco by the place that sold it to you. You had no control over the chemicals in the food during processing.....none, nada.
     
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    I know what is in the food I choose to eat will lead me to living longer than my parents. In addition to other medical advances, regular exercise, and abstaining from risky behaviors like smoking, drinking in excess, or sky diving.

    My grandfathers both smoke and drank and ate whatever and lived to their late 80's and early 90's. But they both didn't sit at a damned desk all day. They actually worked. And I think that makes more of a difference than your lame arguments. LOTS of factors effect longevity, and we all die anyway.
     
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    I do know what it is. Does Biden? His proposals seem to fund everything but roads and airports and bridges.
     
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    No, the right lives playing reverse Robin Hood. They live to steal my money and giving the rich a free ride.
     
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    So, that’s one big thing gov. Provides for you. Now you know ?
    Just look up infrastructure so you don’t think it’s just roads and bridges. It’s the entire process including the maintenance and management of it as well.
     
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    You did a good job pretending you didn’t with your little denial .
     
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    Not really. But feel free to explain what you mean here.
     
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    Wow, I left out maintenance. Sue me. Do you know the difference between a public and a private good?
     
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    Lol.

    Living in society and participating in VOLUNTARY transactions is perfectly acceptable.

    Stop acting like your collectivist mentality and desire to possess the fruits of everybody elses is the only acceptable version society... telling everybody else to leave if they don't appreciate your entitled Robinhood mentality.

    Nobody signed a contract or gave you the authority to dictate. Get over yourself and your thieving mentality.

    I dont want to participate in your forced collectivism.
     
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    I'm ok with some social safety nets, but they are far to large and abused right now. Regardless, poor analogy. Our society got along just fine with voluntary transactions before television liberals came along with all their forced collectivist programs that only made things worse.

    The only policy that works with the left is forced. That should tell you how shitty their policies are.
     
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    Health care is a private economic good and should not be paid for by government. Period. And this is actually an appropriate place for tariffs to force other deadbeat socialist countries to pay their own way instead of living off the US.

    Likewise, health insurance is also a private good. One that liberals keep confusing with the actual health care. They're two separate things.
     
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    Prove who doesn't work? The unemployed? That's what unemployed means: not employed. I guess they make their beds and wash the dishes, if you call that work, though in some cases, I doubt it.
     
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    Then don't live in a society with other people.
     
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    Healthcare should not be for profit.
     
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    Why? Explain that logically. I know it's a visceral desire, but nobody can explain it logically.
     
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    Because the focus of healthcare should be healthcare, NOT PROFIT.
     
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    Why? Bald assertions don't help your case.

    Who are you willing to enslave to provide these services, lol?
     
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    No one will be enslaved.
     
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    An idle comment with not point what so ever.

    You leave out a lot. Republicans have always talked about infrastructure spending. But no one can ever remember when they came through in any meaningful way in modern history. Roads and bridges. That’s hilarious. All republicans still think America conducts business by driving to the mall and only buying goods delivered by long haul. There are no airports, trains and internet in any republican infrastructure plan which is involved in the majority of commerce.

    No one can remember when they ever cut the deficit either. Democrats have managed to do it with every presidency. Republicans run up deficits, no infrastructure and 10 of the last 11 recessions. But they sure like to brag about selling guns.
     
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    Enslavement is having no access to healthcare. Try living in pain and dying early without access to real freedom. You can only practice exercising your rights if you’re in good enough health to do it. Health and wealfare is a department in every federal and state gov. List of programs in every budget because the constitution requires it. Freedom only comes with health. It’s really ignorant not to get it. Everyone has equal rights under the constitution which requires the gov. to provide equal access to health care. Poverty should never prevent this access any more then it should never interfere with our right to practice any right.
     
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    Republicans who want everything for free, leave out a lot when it comes to infrastructure. It’s like they have their own dictionary. Let’s build stuff but hand the bill to the next generation. But let’s only build the military and fk the citizens who provide the taxes. Corporations have no responsibility in the eyes of conservatives to support the constitution.

    The only way republicans could rationalize the interstate highway was for military transportation of hardware. Everyone else had to pay tolls which we still do today. No one is more out for free stuff then conservatives.
     
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    Gee, I’ve never seen a rational explanation on posts from the right. Just platitudes and questions with no rationality.
     
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