Why Abortion Should Be Legal

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Should Abortion Be Legal?

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  1. Whaler17

    Whaler17 Well-Known Member

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    Not so much in reality. But you tell yourself whatever you need to to be able to sleep at night.
     
  2. Cady

    Cady Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In reality, this is a baby:

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    Below is an 8 week embryo, the size of a kidney bean (the majority of abortions are performed by the 8th week):

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    There is is a world of difference.
     
  3. MisLed

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    We are so fast to embrace Ontogeny recapitulates Phalogeny except when it comes to the right to life of a human being.
     
  4. Whaler17

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    No difference at all in reality, except age!!!
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Denial of the obvious again ?
     
  6. Whaler17

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    Are you stating your position? If so, I have to agree you routinely ignore the obvious!
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    My position is that there are many significant differences, other than age, between and 8 week old fetus and a 2 month old baby.

    Your claim that there is not a difference other than age is an excercise in ingnoring the obvious.

    If you want to prove this to yourself show a 8 yr old child a picture of an 8 week old fetus, a baby, and an adult and ask the child to point out which one is not like the other.

    If it is that obvious to a 8 yr old child ....
     
  8. Whaler17

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    My indisputable position is that both are the same entity, only age separates them. Age is not a criteria for denial of basic human rights.
     
  9. Cady

    Cady Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Who said the photos are the same entity? One is a photograph and one is a drawing. Not only age, but the level of development separates them. When did it become a basic human right to live inside a person and use her bodily resources?
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Unfortunately you have no support for your "indisputable position"
     
  11. Whaler17

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    So man up and state your position. Are you stating that a fetus and the infant the fetus grows into are not the same entity?

    A yes or no would be sufficieint!
     
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    Plenty of difference and it revolves around the word "potentially"
     
  13. Mrlittlelawyer

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    If you don't like it don't do it is the wrong policy. If you don't like it and believe it is wrong stop it. Who are we to say "that one lives. That one dies."

    So what you idiot you ARE a glob of cells. mostly at least.
     
  14. Whaler17

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    That is idiocy unless you are willing to say an infant isn'ta human being but rather a potential one because he/she isn't fully developed. :roll:
     
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    Her choice is made when she has sex whether its rape or intentional. After that its no longer JUST her reproductive system but the child's body and life. If rape then the rapist gets punished for taking her God given right but no the child for him/her did nothing.
     
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    A woman who is forced to have sex should then be forced to continue the resulting pregnancy and childbirth? You have little regard for women, Mr. little.
     
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    Of course they are not the same entity. You are not the same entity as you were 10 seconds ago .. in that time period you have changed.

    Your claim was that the only difference between a 8 week old Fetus and a born baby was time.

    Your claim is simply not true. Try another line of reason.
     
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    You clearly do not understand what the word entity means. I am through trying to educate those who do not wish to learn.
     
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    You forget in your ignorance that there may be a girl in the womb thus resulting your argument into the fact that I have full regard for women and girls in protecting the life of them. A woman who is forced to have sex? I think that you are referring to rape. The majority of abortions do not happen as a result of this.
    Still it is an issue and so therefore I will say that on this accusation against me "I have regard for human life and that alone. Woman man boy or girl Black,White Asian, or Indian. And so just as all protect others from being murdered so do I." I believe that when an abortion happens as a result of rape it is like a robbery. A robbery of another's rights. The rapists takes away the rights of the woman and so therefore should be punished, but what of the resulting child? Would it be wrong to make her bear the child? No it wouldn't her right to her body and property does not take away the right to life that the child has. Its the man who did it and made her pregnant who should be punished not the random person who has no "choice" for who are we to say "that one lives cause I want him/her that one dies because I don't."
     
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    You state these thing yet have no argument THAT is ignorance. Her choice is made for her by the rapist and that is why he should be punished not the child within her. Its wrong to make choices like that for others but not wrong to stop murder.
     
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    There is no "girl" in the womb. A girl is a female child from birth to full growth. What were you saying about ignorance?


    Remember? YOU first opined that abortion should be illegal even in cases of rape.

    The purpose of abortion debate is to determine IF abortion is murder. That is what you have to prove, otherwise you are begging the question.

    No one has the right to live inside another person.
     
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    You should start by educating yourself. Part of education is to reject ideas that are clearly false.

    You claimed that there is no difference between an 8 week old fetus and a newborn baby.

    This is clearly false. ( 8 week old fetus does not have significant brain function .. but there are a hundred other differences)

    There is no way to prove that the fetus and the newborn are "the same entity" and even if they were that does not make a newborn the same as an 8 week old fetus.

    Your entity argument fails entirely from the zygote to the first mitosis because after the first mitosis we could have 2 entitites .. aka twins.

    You have not flushed out your "entity" claim in any educated way.
     
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