The reason Abortion should be legalized (in a plain, controversial nutshell): *It is the woman's choice *Government should not determine what is wrong or right, for they will use this excuse to limit our freedoms; "For the sake of being moral, You will not be able to do X." *Abortion is not murder, for it is developing and is only a glob of cells, which has no conscience, and no pain One more point: *If you don't like it, don't do it Do not spin that last point around. I know that some people will.
It should be legal mostly because (imo) parents should not be forced to have children that they do not want. Are their not enough crappy parents in the world without forcing ones that do not want their children to have them? Oh, that's a recipe for a happy childhood (not)...'I don't want this baby, but the law forces me to have it'. And please save me the 'they can always adopt' thing. Most of the adopted people I have personally known said that their adopted parents treated them badly. Not just okay...badly. This notion that the vast majority of parents that adopt are good parents is nothing but a myth. Some are good. Many suck.
What do you think all laws are based on? If right and wrong are irrelevant, why is the murder of a full grown adult illegal?
Which is completely irrelevant to what I asked him. He said the government should not determine right and wrong. And I asked him why killing anyone should be illegal if the government does not determine right and wrong. What other purpose is there to make murder illegal other than being morally wrong?
Or you're attempting to derail something you cannot answer. I'm asking it for a specific reason that is relevant to this thread.
The only purpose for government at all is to maintain order in society. Murder tends to disrupt that order. The law against murder is not for moral purposes, but only to maintain order in society. The fact that murder is immoral is immaterial in the eyes of the law. Government is simply incapable of determining what IS right and wrong, much less enforcing it.
Actually that is not the case - it is illegal here and we might as well scrap it because the last people to be found guilty under this act was nearly 40 years ago
If you have a law that is never, or rarely, enforced, it is probably best to do away with such a law.
And the last time someone was charged under this act they were found to be not guilty - have you even looked at WHY this law is not enforced Mostly because it is nearly bloody impossible TO enforce it The pro-lifers though keep having their wet dreams about legislation stopping abortion
I don't see that ineffective emforcement efforts render the law useless. Your law enforcement should do their job.
And that would require investigating even a miscarriage with the assumption it might have been an abortion.
It actually would not. We don't investigate every heart attack to determine if it was caused by a poisoning.
Are you saying that when someone dies of a heart attack the doctor just declares it a heart attack and the body is buried?
Are you saying the police get involved in every heart attack? But to answer your question directly, YES. I have seen it myself with several family members. No autopsy, no post mortem bloodwork.
What does the police have to do with this? For the police to be involved in something there has to be some indication of "foul play" something the physician declaring death and issuing the death certificate would indicate. By that account people with a history of heart disease can be easily murdered by inducing heart attacks, because nobody looks into it.
Try to keep up will you. This is where this discussion began: http://www.politicalforum.com/abortion/210084-why-abortion-should-legal-2.html#post4542396 Great, you made my point for me. There would be nothing out of the ordinary with reagrd to investigating miscarriages. They are medically investigated anyway to try to prevent another one later! Only if evidence of "foul play" was found would the police get involved. They probably can.
I think the child should have a say as well. So you think murder and rape should be legal. Got it. Brain activity exists long before birth. And the child has fully functioning nerve cells by birth as well. Your claim is factually incorrect. Should we say the same thing for Slavery? rape? Murder? LOL
