Why Americans Can't Find A Job

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  1. Makedde

    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    27 million Americans need a job, yet employers claim they can't find anyone to work for them. Are they not looking hard enough? Or could it be, as I suspected, that are they simply too lazy to hire someone less than perfect, and train them to do the job properly?

    http://presstv.com/usdetail/245358.html

    Imagine applying for your own job and being rejected. How ridiculous.

    As it says, in the 80's, the employer would have no issue with hiring someone and actually showing them the ropes, teaching them the skills required for that person to do well at their job. Nowadays, you have to have this qualification, that qualification, you have to know how to use multiple computer programs and have had experience in this, that, and everything else. No wonder people aren't applying for jobs - it pointless applying for a job that is so out of your reach, even though that job might be something as simple as answering phones.

    Ignoring those candidates who request higher wages than the employer is willing to offer shows that the employer is not prepared to sit down and discuss this, and possibly reach an agreement. Its either this amount per week or nothing at all.

    The article also says that some employees don't want to work for the wages offered - and while some (namely the conservatives) will shrug their shoulders and say 'tough luck', these are tough times. People have rent to pay, bills to pay, families to feed. They can't be working for a few bucks an hour. Big companies need to be more generous, offer more wages, more perks, and you will see more applicants - although if the employer continues to ignore those lesser skilled workers, then its no wonder they have no staff.

    The problem is the employer, not the employee.
     
  2. Dave1mo

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    Stop raising lazy kids who are allowed to go through school with no effort (mommy and daddy protecting their precious child when the teacher/school tries to intervene); that inability/unwillingness to learn is the reason they can't find jobs.
     
  3. Makedde

    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    What about schools, who, knowing the child cannot read, or spell properly, continue to pass that child to higher grades, where they fall more and more behind? Surely the schools can take some blame for this?
     
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    Do you know what happens if you don't pass a kid? What do you think the parents have done and continue to do?
     
  5. Makedde

    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    There is nothing parents can do, I would imagine. The kid can't go back to school, but they COULD get a job if someone was willing to train them.
     
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    Funny I finished orientation today for a new job. Go drive truck you will find a job
     
  7. The Real American Thinker

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    I drove one and was partnered with someone who drove one.

    No, people will not necessarily find one trucking. Some people just CAN'T.
     
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    It depends if you have the skills and can stay away from home. My new job is more money and benefits and home every week
     
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    Or disabled, bad vision, certain illnesses, no license or money to get one, etc.
     
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    Well, there you go. The reason for high unemployment is lazy kids and over protective parents. What's PinkSlip Romney going to do about that exactly? (aside from padding CEO's portfolios I mean).
     
  11. raymondo

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    Close all Social Network ,Forum and Game playing sites to under 30's .
    Or alternatively , make proof of full time employment a requirement for entry .


    Sure it's not serious . But it would produce results .
    Actually , it is serious .
     
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    Its because if the employment rate increases during this administration the employers or wealthy business men have a socialist president for four more years that want to redistribute their wealth for the welfare of the common man and that is not good for profits and their mansions.

    It may or may not work, if Americans think the high employment rate is because of business and not the President during this election cycle they can have their cake and eat it.
     
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    It's because ultimately, like every other society ever, resources are becoming bottled up in the hands of a few.

    Also, we're letting sewer rats and retarded stupid teenagers have kids they can't support. You guys think THAT is somehow not gravely overflooding the nation with low skill low intelligence people?

    Oh yeah, not to mention the (*)(*)(*)(*)ing meglomaniacal outsourcing being done by employers these days.
     
  14. Taxcutter

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    Dave1mo asked:
    "Do you know what happens if you don't pass a kid? What do you think the parents have done and continue to do?"

    Taxcutter says:
    They sue. They sue the school. They sue the teachers. They sue the administrators. They sue bus drivers and custodians. They sue everything that moves and most that which does not. This is why you get social promotion, and this is why teachers' grades are worthless.

    This is why state standardized testing is of value. the state is hard to sue.

    Litigation running amok.
     
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    One thing is for sure, Obama is somehow to blame for this!
     
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    Look in your want ads: There are lots of jobs out there. So why don't people get them? There are many many reasons why:

    1) A lot of people are just bad interviewers. I have met lots of people I would never hire evn if they were the only people availavble

    2) A lot of college kids take stupid stuff in school that will do them no good. Instead of being an engineer or a doctor or something, they will major in classical music for example. Good luck with that!!

    3) There are a number of people who actually don't WANT a job and/or work the system:


    [video=youtube;0OQjlzh279E]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OQjlzh279E[/video]
     
  17. sec

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    really?

    so, when I need to add another 6 figure senior engineer to my staff I should not have high expectations of their capabilities? I pay the salary so they can hit the ground running, not crawling.

    I don't have the time or resources to bring on a snot nose college grad for 35-40k and teach them

    work ethic
    work ethic
    work ethic
    work ethic
    work ethic

    oh, and our development platform either

    What do I look for? if i receive your resume and see that while in college you did not have a job you will not be hearing from me. I want people who understand how to balance life. I also want to see that at some point in your HS years that you also had a job. I'm looking for WORKERS, not academics.

    Appearances- if you are female, too much makeup and you don't make the cut. 6 inch stillettos and you won't make the cut, too high of a skirt and you won't make the cut. i'm not looking for eye candy, I'm looking for workers. Oh, if i can see your tattoo.......well, you understand, you won't make the cut


    men- wear shoes and not sneakers. Wear sneakers and you won't make the cut. Sure, it might be cool on tv but it says a lot to me. If i see your tattoo......buh bye

    to all- if your phone buzzes, rings or beeps you aren't making the cut. if you don't understand the concept of respect and that no text message is as important as the interview then off you go. You can learn business manners on someone else' dime, not mine.

    if you held a job as a waiter/waitress while in college then I am more interested in trying to make you fit into my business. At the end of the day, people skills are very important regardless of the job you hold. Even if you don't work directly with the public you must interact with others. Also, waiters/waitresses tend to understant the concept that the harder you work the more you could earn.
     
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    If 17 kids in the class pass and 1 fails, whose fault do you REALLY think that is? If 4 kids of 18 pass, but its because the other 16 simply didn't do anything they were told, who's fault do you really think it is. You simple can NOT force a kid to learn. You can not FORCE a kid to listen, do his homework, pay attention, ect. But the parents can. There are kids with learning disabilities, but they can be identified and helped, but the parents still have to be aware. Of course you hear stores about X teacher hating Y student and purposely failing them, yada, yada....they're STORIES!!! Mostly B.S.

    Years ago schools were allowed to fail kids. Years ago, kids were deathly afraid to be left back. How embarrassing, right? Now, its no big deal. And its no big deal because the parents aren't instilling anything in these kids that would make them think its embarrassing. You can't fail kids because according to most parents, its NEVER the kid's fault. Enter the lawyers. The funny thing is, these are the same parents that don't even know if its the kids fault at all, because they haven't the foggiest idea what their kid does at school. These same parents blame the school for not informing them of every little thing, even though it takes very little effort to actually "ask".

    Throwing money at the issues doesn't work because far more money is given to inner city, lower performing schools than those in the suburbs which consistently outperform them in every way. Why? The parents.

    Caring parents=caring students=passing students...with rare exceptions.
     
  19. septimine

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    I think there are a few reasons that employers are less willing to train workers. First is the work ethic thing. I've seen your kids, hell I've seen some grownups, and they do not understand the concept of work. They take long lunches, they go over on breaks, they spend more time talking than working. (for the record, it's a wallyworld, but I wouldn't want to waste time on these people), so I mean, i get why a lot of people aren't exactly willing to take a chance on some random person without a lot of experience in the field. If you luck out, you might get someone with a work ethic, but most Americans are just filling time, not working. The second thing is that Americans are changing jobs a lot. So if an employer spends 3 months training (and of course the money) he's probably going to lose it as the employee is going to jump ship the instant something slightly better shows up. So in essence, training on the job means teaching someone who in 3-4 year's time will be working for your competitor. I make you the best salesman in the industry, and then you stab me in the back, take the skills i spend thousands of dollars teaching you, and you teach my competitors my secrets while using the training I wasted money on to work against me -- I wonder why that doesn't happen? Yeah, business owners are not stupid. If you aren't there, long haul, it's not worth it to train you.

    Personally, I'd like to see a contract -- I will not seek other employment for X years. That way it might be worth training a less than perfect employee. It means that I can count on you still working for me until I at minimum recoup my costs.
     
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    Why can we still afford entitlement spending that only benefits the wealthy during times of lowering taxes?
     
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    It's not the schools, Makedde. It's never the schools. It can't be the schools. It will never be the schools. They have absolutely no responsiblilty. They are absolutely totally irresponsible so forget about including the schools.

    One issue that might be considered is that the work people will accept has to improve the lifestyle people have not working. A friend of mine mentioned that her nephew had turned down over 125 jobs after graduation because they were all beneath him. He had set standards. I suggested that if his parents tossed him out of their house and told him he wouldn't be driving their car and quit giving him spending money that allowed him to take girls to nice restaurants he might discover work has benefits. Another friend was the sole support of her "little boy". I learned her little boy was 27-years old and had never held a job longer than a couple of days. Then, he got a job, temporary, working on the census. Within a day he quit. It wasn't socially relevant. Lying on the couch watching daytime television? That was socially relevant.
     
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    I screen resumes all the time for specific jobs. Most people don't have the faintest amount of relevant experience.
     
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    BINGO!!

    That is one of the things I said in my last post:


     
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    we need better training in schools , some kids are better at hands on work and should be trained in a trade school! the college kids move to that , in the machinist field they can start at $39,910 per year $19.19 per hour http://www.bls.gov/ooh/production/machinists-and-tool-and-die-makers.htm

    also there are jobs where ya going to get dirty but they pay well , not everyone will need a degree in basket weaving
     
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    A Bachelor's degree in puppetry?
     

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