Why are Americans so obsessed with abortion

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by Socialism Works, Jul 1, 2014.

  1. Socialism Works

    Socialism Works Well-Known Member

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    Abortion is rarely discussed in the UK but in America it seems to be a raging argument every day.

    Why is this?
     
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    HonestJoe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Religion and partisan politics.
     
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    Well you know, it is murder.
     
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    Well, there's one reason....people claiming it's murder when it's not.

    Second reason: Those people trying to force their beliefs on everyone else instead of minding their own business.
     
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    well it is killing a human cell collection thingy that could someday be in the first grade and get married and stuff. But anyway, I think for me personally if I participated in any form of abortion ever it would be a sin. But I dont KNOW that, so I believe the law should be against it when the cell collection thingy is viable out of the womb. As for why we talk aobut it all the time is the partisan politics.
     
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    You missed : ""Second reason: Those people trying to force their beliefs on everyone else instead of minding their own business.


    It wouldn't have to be discussed except that Anti-Choicers want to take women's rights away. The Republicans over the last 3-4 years have introduced almost 400 pieces of legislation attempting to control women's reproduction.....so the discussion, which should've been over in the 20th century, is dragged on by those living in the 15th century...they do NOT believe in freedom and liberty, nor equal rights for women.....so complain to them...
     
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    Do you think abortion is OK on a viable fetus?
     
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    Cady Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That doesn't happen except for extreme medical reasons.
     
  9. FoxHastings

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    I personally don't and it seldom happens anyway . It does happen if the life or health of the woman is in danger, and that is OK with me.
     
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    Because babies are warm, cuddly and innocent.

    If there was a more effective example of cannon fodder for inciting tribalism and culture war, then our brave culture warriors would blithely toss the innocent little blastocysts out the window in a heartbeat and go with the more effective tactic. Were concern for the sanctity of life actually the underlying motivation for opposition to access to safe and legal abortion, then said concern wouldn't begin at conception and end at birth.
     
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    I dont think I disagree with you, much. I see it as murder from conception but I dont beleive in forcing my religious bleifs on others. I am sure a viable fetus being aborted is murder, so I am for laws against that. If it comes to mother or baby, I dont know that I can say I am OK with it, but I would not make a law.
     
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    And I completely respect your right to your opinion and respect YOU for not trying to force your beliefs on others.

    If more people were like you then abortion wouldn't have to be discussed endlessly...
     
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    The US is the only Western country where the fundamentalists have unified and become heavily involved in politics. Whether they're trying to put creationism in science class or stop abortions, it's been going on for 80 years (since the Scopes trial).
     
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    Thank all of you for your replies. I personally think the government should stay out of a woman's uterus but I think abortion simply as a form of contraception should be discouraged.
     
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    ...and the US is the only western country with a constitutional separation of Church and State. Go figure!
     
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    As a Brit and having been debating abortion for a very long time I have found that the primary reason abortion is such a hot topic in the USA is based on their perception of being a religiously moral country .. which TBH is ironic in itself, another reason is that the politicians on both sides realize that it is a vote winner, it polarizes opinion which both parties can exploit to their advantage by being either pro-choice or pro-life.

    no political party, regardless of their standings, wants a united population.
     
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    Hmmm ... I think you need not worry about the whole "Sin" thing. Many Popes did not believe the fetus had a soul in the early stages.

    God did not seem to mind abortion and there even was a proscribed abortion procedure in OT Law when a woman was thought to have been unfaithful.
     
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    here some want to have the government decide who has and doesn't have a baby... other feel this should be a women's choice... both sides have strong feelings about the issue
     
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    We are apparently a Christian Nation....with that comes the Dogma and the obvious ability to make things up for God.
     
  20. Unifier

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    It's a crazy little thing called human rights that only about half of the country cares about. The other half - mostly on the left - has historically ignored this in favor of solipsism. Prior to their current anti-life crusade, these same people were very adamant about a similar anti-freedom crusade for black people.
     
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    You are comparing generations of completely different people. Why?

    And why must pro-lifers constantly bring up the issue of slavery in this debate? Because they want to enslave women as nothing more than broodmares to the state? I don't get it.
     
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    I see the BS is thick and fast as usual.
     
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    Unifers arguements make more sense than your arguements, Fugazi.
     
  24. Fugazi

    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    That is probably because they fit your own opinion and don't require any actual research or individual thinking on your part as you have said you can't be bothered to do the research and as such you leech of other people comments in order to proclaim them as your own.

    Just because you don't understand my arguments and can't be bothered to actually do the research doesn't make my arguments less it just makes you a lazy poster.

    TBH I feel that at the moment you are just replying to me in order to try and force a confrontation, where you are hoping I will respond in a way that you can report.

    most of the time Unifiers posts consist of nothing more than assuming the premise and other fallacies.
     
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    The Amazing Sam's Ego Banned at Members Request

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    Everybody supports arguements that fit their opinions. It's a natural part of human nature.

    I do research. I read a lot from political websites. The only reason I borrow other peoples arguements is because I dont think im the smartest person out there.

    Strange that you say that about Unifier. Your posts are full of assuming the premise and other fallacies.
     

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