Why are democrats upset about Trump trying to improve relations with Russia?

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  1. Rollo1066

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    It's about the only good thing he is trying to do.

    With rare exceptions we should be trying to improve relations with all foreign nations (N Korea & Saudi Arabia are possible exceptions).

    Russia is often a rival but versus ISIS they are an ally. In WWII the Soviet Union was our ally against Nazi Germany. Today's Russia is nowhere as bad as the Soviet Union under Stalin.

    Now a Special Counsel has been appointed, the best thing to do is to cool down the spin and wait on the legal investigation.

    It makes much more sense to argue against trying to worsen relations with many nations (Canada, Mexico, Germany, France, Iran (no worse than the Saudis & probably better)) than to argue against improving relations with Russia.
     
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    Improving relations is one thing, collaborating and being under their control is another...
     
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    There is more to suggest that Obama is a Muslim than there is Trump collaborated with the Russians and is being controlled by them.
     
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    Don't scapegoat Saudi Arabia... Qatar is the source of funding and weapons.
     
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    Nothing is wrong with improving relations with Russia. As long as we stand strong against their policies when we need to and don't let them make our choices. I have every reason to believe President Trump is fulfilling those two exceptions, as evidenced by the missiles taking out Syria's military base where the poison attacks originated. Russia wasn't too keen on that and Trump didn't care.
     
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    My guess is the Dems weren't pleased about Russia annexing Crimea, or meddling in Ukraine. Meddling with our election was a bridge too far. Sure it would be great to have improved relations with Russia, but they've got a lot of work to do before I'd sit down with them.
     
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    If someone down the block is trying to burn your house down, do you try to improve relations or take action?
     
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    "Collaborating" what a joke. The only people that believe that are the same tools that thought Hillary was gonna win in a landslide when she couldnt even fill a high school gym.
     
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    Breaking News: Russian soldiers just landed in San Diego and Savannah!!!!!
     
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    Its Red Dawn 3, Election Season
     
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    If you're Obama you give them billions in cash which allows them to build bigger matches and they'll still threaten to burn down your house.
     
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    I remember a lot of conservatives giving Obama crap for his "reset" with Russia. Now its their turn to be subjected to this partisan nonsense. Only difference is that this president is not as smart as he would like us to think he is. He literally confessed to obstruction of justice in his Lester Holt interview and the only thing saving him as that the rest of the swamp in Washington is just as crooked as he is.
     
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    Amazing how while Russia was interfering on his behalf he suddenly wanted better relations with them. Just a coincidence I'm sure lol
     
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    Hence the puppet in the WH..............
     
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    col·lab·o·ra·tion
    kəˌlabəˈrāSH(ə)n/
    noun
    noun: collaboration; plural noun: collaborations
    1. 1.
      the action of working with someone to produce or create something.
      "he wrote on art and architecture in collaboration with John Betjeman"
      • something produced or created by collaboration.
        "his recent opera was a collaboration with Lessing"
    2. 2.
      traitorous cooperation with an enemy.
      "he faces charges of collaboration"
    Origin

    Ask Trump supporters Aaron Nevin and Roger Stone what it means. I'm sure they know by now.
     
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    Isn't it amazing ,the number of new members who are big Russia fans?
     
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    It seems the Russian propaganda and disinformation campaigns have used the likes of Infowars and Breitbart very effectively.

    And of course we know now that wikileaks is just a Russian operation. And they have released forged documents.
     
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    "Why are democrats upset about Trump trying to improve relations with Russia?"

    we are not upset about that, were upset about the lying and coverups by the Trump admin, just tell the truth already

    we can be upset about Russia's meddling in our elections and still be for improved relations
     
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    Ya, got any actual proof of that?
     
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    If what the left claims about Russian meddling is true, they put out the out of control dumpster fire in this country known as the DNC. :applause: dumpsterfire.png
     
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    Trump: Crooked lyin Hillary
    Putin: AGREED!!
    Left: Collusion!!!

    :roll:
     
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    The collective is full of hypocrisy. Do you know what "collusion" looks like to win an election? It looks like this...

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    Now that's how you collude with Russia to win an election. It's hella funny watching Ted Kennedy fans going all McCarthy on everyone.

    Sad, pathedic, people....

    Russia hacked the election truthers... The collution is out there... Somewhere...
     
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    Improving relations? Or rolling over to an expansionist dictator...
     
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    OP- because Russia is Christian, wont let gays get married, is putting the hurt on the jihadi snowflakes, and rejected the leftists sacred collectivism. Russia is embracing nationalism, sovereignty and pulling out of globalism. Russia is planted firmly in opposition to the global government that the left *thinks* will herald in a new global socialist PC utopia.

    Russia needs to be cleansed with fire before the individualism spreads.
     
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    Well we KNOW they were interfering in our election to get Trump elected. That's FACT.

    And here you are defending Trump "improving relations" with the country that did that
     
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