Why are Hispanics counted as white in crime statistics?

Here are some FBI stats for you to consider. Hispanics are white-unless you want to tell Spaniards that they are not white.

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/table-43

 

Oh they do; but according to the OP it is a "very small" number. Barely worth mentioning, in fact...

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And yet this thread, about race, was begun by a conservative. Confused, are we?

 

...and Spain, where they all originated.

 

Strawman. No one ever said whites don't commit crime. Since attitude toward crime is cultural, ethnicity is important to separate. The statistics for European white and Hispanic white have very different statistics with the latter being much higher. As far as gun crime is concerted, the highest is black with Hispanic next and then European white as a percentage of their race/ethnicity.

 

That'll never happen. Other than Asians, non whites need an excuse that they're being 'oppressed.'

 

They don't. I just looked it up. It's white, black or other.

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/uc...murder_offenders_by_age_sex_and_race_2012.xls

 

interesting, but white nationalists here are complaining that they are being oppressed now.....

 

The point of the thread is that blacks and non white hispanics commit crimes at a far greater rate than whites, not that there are zero hispanics who are white, or that there are zero crimes committed by whites. The vast majority of hispanics are not white so it is unfair to blame their crimes on the white population.

Just look at the Duke non-rape case. Why were those boys persecuted when it was obvious right away that the female was a prostitute who was known to falsely accuse groups of men of rape? Crystal Mangum is in prison for murder today, she was obviously a loon from day 1. Still, the liberal media blew the case up into a national crap storm all for the purpose of disparaging whites, especially whites from wealthier families.

Every time there is a mass shooting, reports arrive from liberal news sources that the tea party was involved, right wing racist fanatics, etc. That is almost never the case, the shooters turn out to be insane retards, usually liberal if any politics are involved at all, and often minorities (as often as whites based on population ratios).

 

Spaniards are not Hispanic though.

 

For a group of people who claim they are the master race, it's interesting how they can be so oppressed by those supposedly "inferior minorities".

 

Oh really? Do you have any proof of this assertion, or is this something you pulled out your butt again?

The Duke players never spent one night in jail. Ever heard of the Scottsboro Boys?

Conservatives have been involved in a lot of destruction in this countries history. It was the conservative ideology behind slavery, jim crow laws, the kkk, lynch mobs, etc. So don't try and play high and mighty. It's your ideology that has caused nothing but division and hatred in this country.

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What the hell is the difference between a "European white", and a "Hispanic white"?

 

Today's lesson:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spain
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispanic

 

I can´t imagine so much ignorance in so little space..

Why are Hispanics counted as white...? Because they are white... It doesn´t exist non white hispanics, like it doesn´t exist non white anglos...

Hispanics...are HISPANII... and hispanii are people from HISPANIA... ISPANAN, SPANAAN... and now I am going to discover something extraordinary for many in this section of the forum: Hispania is not Mexico.. not even Alabama...Where´s Hispania? It´s very easy...you can go to google maps. you can find New York... ok? Well, now put one of your fingers on the point that´s written New York...and slowly you can move the finger right...ok? Well, the first land your finger arrive It´s Hispania... Its the land opposite New York.
And the Hispanics are Spaniards and portugueses, white people in the Westernmost place in Europe (save Iceland). mitochondrial DNA and Haplogoup show the Hispanics belong to the Atlantic race (together British and French).. in fact, the Hispanics are the "roots" of British people together german... and yes, It was between the Spaniards where the blue eyes mutation appeared for the first time between human...about 9.000 years ago...
To say (it is worst, to write), Hispanic are Aztecs... is a nonsense...a great ignorance about anthropology, DNA, or History... to say that spaniards conquested Mexico (Hernan Cortes, Bernal Diaz del Castillo, Pedro de Alvarado etc) were "aztecs"...It is a funny joke...The second surprise for you today: spaniards (Hispanics, Hispanii etc) fought Aztecs, they weren´t aztec!!!!
Three Roman emperors were Hispanii.: Trajan (you can see his portrait... Not he wasn´t Aztec, not even Apache), Hadrian (for sure he wasn´t negro)... and Theodosius the Great, the last emperor to rule over both the eastern and the western halves of the Roman Empire.

To say (it is worst, to write) that Spaniards aren´t Hispanics... it´s to show the universal ignorance about DNA, Antropology or History.. Hispanics are from Hispania... not from Nicaragua...

Hispania, non quam Italia terra sed quam ulla pars terrarum, bello reparando aptior erat, locorum hominumque ingeniis (Titus Livius)

Celtic blood running through the veins of Hispanics.

Regards

Ignorance is the night of the mind, but a night without moon and starless (Confucio).

 

Well... the Democratic South were the original slave owners and against Lincoln and abolition.

 

Hispanic is a term used to describe all Latino's now and this includes very dark skinned Mexicans who are ANYTHING BUT WHITE.

2: of, relating to, or being a person of Latin American descent living in the United States; especially : one of Cuban, Mexican, or Puerto Rican origin

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hispanic

 

if it's a new thread about anything tied to race it's been started by a conservative...yet liberals/progressives are somehow to blame...

 

or you you could ignore the colloquial "race" definition and accept the actual biological fact that there are no races at all...the colour of ones skin is no more relevant in what supposed group they belong to than do the size of their ears...the only determinant is DNA, and DNA verifies we are all one species. one enormous extended family, all decended from a common super great grandfather 60K yrs ago and a common super great grandmother about 160K yrs ago...and we all came from africa...there are no races, this is verified scientific fact...

 

Exactly so: It´s what´s named "mitochondrial Eve" and "mitochondrial Adam", maybe they were born in East Africa, in a area between Somalia, Ethiopia, Kenya

 

First of all, most Hispanics think of themselves as "white" even if they have mixed blood.

Second, breaking down crime statistics by race is outdated and unenlightening. Crime statistics should only be delineated by the particular neighborhood in which they occur.

 

every one of us is of mixed blood...your external appearance is not a guide of what you are...my very "black" friend from Barbados is 50% european even though both his parents are very dark...my equally dark buddy from S Africa has german, dutch, S Asian, and african heritage, yet somehow he would be classified as "black", merely because of the colour of his skin, racial classification is absurd...and then there is myself, blonde, blue eyed northern euro born who also happens to have melanesian ancestry, why am I not classified as "black"?

absolutely, crime is socio economic ...

 

Exactly again.. mixed blood is in almost 99% manking, only Bushmen in Namibia maybe are "pure" blood, at least they are the old modern human on the Earth...

About crime, It is not always socio economic.. for example some serial killers can be very polite, good education, university, money, good work.. intelligent, a very confortable social position. and however they need to kill...

 

First, Hispanic are Spaniards, very simple.. and here you can read what is the DNA mithocondrial in Spanish populations:

http://www.eupedia.com/europe/european_y-dna_haplogroups.shtml

In Spain ruled mark R1b (by the way, more than in British islands)... Can you see? Belgium 61%, England 67%, France 58%, Ireland 81%, , Portugal 56%, Scotland 72%, Spain 69%, Wales 83%... and Spanish basques is 85%...
R1B is the celtic mark, hittite, armenian: British, Spaniards, French and belgium have the same R1b in higher proportion.. they belong to the named Atlantic race..
So if you say that Hispanics are "mixed" with indian.. Can you show any information about the proportion of indian DNA Mithocondrial in Spanish population?

I repeat again: Spanish population from Mithocondrial DNA: R1b 69%, J2 8%, E1b1b 7%, 4,5% i2a2a, 3% G, 2% T, etc etc ANY DNA from indian populations... or from Black Africa... in fact the hegemony is the Celtic DNA almost 70%... So Hispanics are white... so simple so easy...

I hope to finish this controversy, but I hope if someone is going to write, he provides evidence of "Aztec" origin of Spanish (Hispanii) population

In fact, the Spanish (Hispania Peninsula) and British Islands are the European places where the population is more homogeneous and less "mixed"... in Europe... People from Germany or from Scandinavia are more "mixed" than from Spain or Britain.. .maybe by the geographical position...

So the aztec people are aztec.. and the Hispanics are Hispanics.. former are indians, latter are europeans.

 

Even the San are rountinely in the 50% range for sub-saharan DNA

sure, thet get the big headlines but they make only a tiny percentage of crime stats...

 

according to the National Geographic genome project average iberian (spanish and portugese) DNA is 48% Mediterranean, 37% northern european and 13% S.W. Asian....typical British DNA 50% Northern euro, 33% Mediterranean, 17% SW Asian....the northern dna is thought to be among the earliest occupants of europe the Mediterranean and SW Asian represent later waves of migration...