Why are LIBERALS soft on crime?

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  1. Libhater

    Libhater Well-Known Member

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    This guy Dominic Cenelli was a career criminal having over 70 serious crimes on his rap sheet, and he was doing time with 3 consecutive life sentences when a soft liberal parole team decided to parole him on account of good or outstanding imprisoned behavior. This guy attempted to murder a security guard back in 1985, and now while on parole he shot and killed a 60-year-old police officer during a jewelry heist.

    Our entire legal system is made up of feel-good pansified liberals who always soften the punishment handed out to these career criminals.

    Its also been the liberal intention to take away our 2nd Amendment rights of owning weapons. Liberals for the most part are anti gun, anti war pacifists that take their marching orders from whatever secular God du jour that just happens to be blowing the loudest horn.

    It doesn't surprise me that the family man police officer who lost his life to that scum came from the Massachusetts--the most liberal state in the union.
    Anyway, see if you're as outraged over the lack of balls and lack of discipline the liberal courts and liberal parole committees have over our criminal problem by reading the link I provide.

    http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view.bg?articleid=1305810
     
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    The article does not state the parole board were liberals. You made that up. You dont seem to have any problem with lying it seems.
     
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    darckriver New Member Past Donor

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    Maybe there's an unspoken "elect me and I'll let you steal whatever you want - hell, I'll even help you".

    "In fact, if you contribute 10% of the loot to my election campaign, I'll see to it that our union security people look the other way when you arrive at your 'job'. Then we can count thievery as contributing to the 'saved or new job' category in next month's ARRA justification figures."

    [No - I'm not being serious, so don't bother...]
     
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    Americans in general don't know how to deal with criminals that is why the country is going down...
     
  5. PatrickT

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    Liberals start by thinking, "Oh, (*)(*)(*)(*), that could be me."
     
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    kmisho New Member Past Donor

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    "There but for the grace of God go I." One thing I wish conservatives would conserve.
     
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    Illiberals believe that locking up more of the population than China does is a good thing.
     
  8. CanadianEye

    CanadianEye Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's like everything else regarding the liberal mindset. You know the one, the same retarded mantra of those intellectual giants who win beauty pageants:

    All the world can be a place of peace, if we just wish it hard enough.

    Reality doesn't exist for liberal thinking, except as a place conservatives force them uncomfortably to visit on occasion.

    This guy Dominic should have never been paroled, and those who put him out should be held responsible. Personally, I hope someone from the victims familys beats the living (*)(*)(*)(*) out of the ones responsible.
     
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    Democrats and republicans are the abusive parents of a dysfunctional family known as the United States.
     
     
    Democrats represent that lady in line with you at the supermarket with a half dozen screaming kids in tow who would never raise her voice or egad make a child mind. Her tactic is to spoil them with kindness and allow the children to have anything their little heart desires, and frowns on anyone who negatively responds to her children, "who of course can do no wrong".
     
     
    Republicans are of course the total opposite, more of a Mommy dearest disciplinarian. Both mentally and physically abusive, and an over bearing authoritarian. Do as I say not as I do, how dare you question my superiority, you are lucky I allow you to exist, bow before me, as I will not spare the rod, and you will be lucky if I decide to allow you to breath after you have finished the bread without water tonight. I don't do this because I like it, I do this for your own good, and remember this is going to hurt me a lot more than it does you.
     
     
    Lord help us, no wait, he wants us to honor thy parents??? We are doomed! :cry:
     
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  10. Red

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    And, harking back to the point Ian made, did the article tell you whether this family man from the most liberal state in the union was himself a holder of liberal opinions?

    I see that Mass has the twentieth highest rate of violent crime out of all your fifty states. How liberal are South Carolina(#1) and Tennessee(#2)? How liberal are their parole boards?
     
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    To me it seems that certain people are not so much soft on crime as they are soft on criminals. It is the belief that people can be rehabilitated and deserve a second chance. More so the same persons who believe this seem likely to believe that had the criminal not been in the poor situation he was in (socially, financially, perhaps a broken family) that he didn't act any differently then any other person might have in the same scenario. Therefore their goal is not so much to punish the criminal as it is to rehabilitate him to give him the opportunity to succeed and to eliminate the factors that would put someone in the situation where they would be compelled to commit a crime.

    While this belief may be moral and upstanding, what not with giving people second chances to do good in the world, a lot of the times we end up with dangerous criminals getting second, third or even more chances to commit the same crimes again and again. On the other hand you have people who might become upright and productive citizens never get the chance to because of the way the system works against them.

    Either way you look at it, it is all wishful thinking. You can only build so many prisons and you can only release so many criminals.
     
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  12. CanadianEye

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    Good post.

    I have long maintained that prisons should be real prisons, and that people should serve the terms given them, in that real prison.

    My definition of a real prison. 18 hours of the day, making little rocks out of big rocks. Shackled while doing that, unshackled if you earn the privilige.

    Be given decent meals, a little down time, (with possibilities of schooling during that down time if the privilge is earned).

    Shorten the 18 hours of labor, again, as an earned privilge over time.

    Either way, if you got 10 years, you serve 10 years, but you have a choice to keep it hard or earn it to be softer time served.

    You would see less return rates, since, the usual repeaters would not have gotten out in the first, second or third place...and the whole processing of those yahoos through the courts would be gone.

    Those who did do, say a 5 year stretch, might very well steer clear of recommiting crimes, when they know prison is going to really be prison.

    More prisons? Maybe, but over time, it would scale down.
     
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    I see nowhere in your post or link that indicates the parole board was "liberal". Nice try, though.
     
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    I wonder why liberals are working so hard to get convicted felons and prisoners to vote. It can't be because they have a right to vote because some don't and the military clearly has a right to vote and the liberals work just as hard to keep the military from voting. Quite a puzzle, isn't it?
     
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    Come on Patric it ain't like democrats are the only culprits. Gerrymandering was invented by the republicans, and it's still a form of voter fraud used by both parties to this day.
     
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    The Massachusetts senate is or has about a 95% to 5% liberal to Conservative legislation house. The mayor of Boston and the governor of Taxachusetts are flaming leftist liberals/socialists. Its the governor himself who selected these parole board members. Rather than to educate you on the liberal political leanings of these people that represent any and all legislation and criminal boards etc in the state--I suggest you just shut your pie hole and take the word of an all-American honest Conservative like myself when doling out these factoids. Like I said before, liberals nationwide are soft on crime, soft on National Defense, weak on holding up our 2nd Amendment and weaker yet when asked to support capital punishment so that we can get these murderers off our streets and out of the hands of lib lawyers and lib parole boards that would just soon see them mingle out in our neighborhoods once again so they can rape and murder our children and anyone else that gets in their way. My preference would be to bring back public and or televised hangings so as to send the message to these criminals and these softy libs that we mean business.
     
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    So it's the generalised "liberalism" of the entire state, from victim to criminal, judge to prosecutor to parole board, which gives Massachusetts such a terrible crime rate compared with more conservative parts of your country?

    You're going to lose this one really, really badly. You know that, I hope?
     
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    And hear we have the true Conservative- anyone who doesn't think like he does should 'shut your pie hole".

    You still haven't provided one piece of evidence that the parole board was 'liberal'. This is just another uninformed, idiotic ranting against liberals.

    i do think something appears to be broken when a man like this is allowed to walk out of prision. But you focus your rantings against supposed liberals, ensuring that those who might agree with you that the system appears to be broken instead spend their time pointing out what an idiot you are.
     
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    And why do Conservatives 'hate' so much Libhater?

    Why is your heart filled so much with hatred?
     
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    Cause we are intellectually superior... so insults is the only ammo they have.
     
  21. CanadianEye

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    Bolding mine.

    The system is broken. It is ok to just flat out say that.
     
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    "Like I said before, liberals nationwide are soft on crime, soft on National Defense, weak on holding up our 2nd Amendment and weaker yet when asked to support capital punishment so that we can get these murderers off our streets"

    >>>Perfect. I ain't into Christian Talibanism.
     
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    You are the most intellectually superior person I have ever read on line.
     
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    Soft on crime? I don't really think of myself that way, but let me think about it for a minute.

    I suppose there are a lot of things that are technically against the law that I don't think should be counted as crimes. Sodomy, oral sex, most drug use (and I'm only saying most drug use because I imagine that if somebody tries really hard they can come up with some substance that I don't think people should be allowed to ingest) ... these things should not be criminal. Does that make me soft on crime?

    I don't believe in the death penalty, and I think parole should be a possibility for all the most heinous of crimes ... does that make me soft on crime? To me, it just seems reasonable and realistic.
     
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    Please enlighten us oh wise one, what is the solution to the problem of illegal immigration, how can we stabilize the Middle East, and what ever shall we do with this war on drugs?

    And while you're at it could you verify this trigonometric identity for me:

    sin(a-b)/sin(a)cos(b)=1-cot(a)tan(b)

    And just to stay on topic, what exactly do you think is the best way to deal with America's overcrowded prison population?

    Go ahead and think about it for a while, I'm in no hurry.

    :sun:
     

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