Why are violent video games even being discussed? They have 0 impact

When it comes to mass shootings, 0 impact.

Proof? Those same video games are available to the same age groups in many other nations. Do they have as many mass shootings? Nope. So that right there rules it out as a major factor or even a factor at all.

Take an informal poll here. How many of us have played a video game with realistic gun violence? How many of us are mass shooters?

Exactly.

 

Because pointing the finger is insanely easy and requires the fewest muscles to do.

 

It's certainly easier than accepting the truth, we have created the conditions that lead to mass shootings in our lax gun laws, our refusal to make mental illness a priority health wise, our inability to make health care accessible to all, and our cultural attitudes towards guns, "manliness", and attitudes towards violence.

Are there violent video games? Absolutely. But like all goods, they are made for a market. So if video games even want to enter the discussion, it should be to wonder why we are so entertained by violence as Americans? As people in general as well regardless of country. We should look at the countries that consume less violence in it's media and ask why they consume less. But that's not how the discussion will go at all...because this is just about scapegoating guns and the NRA is all.

 

I think for normal sane people, violent video games aren't negative at all. I think for the mentally ill, they might be. That said, I don't think we should limit technology based on what that technology does to the mentally ill.

 

I wouldn't say they have zero impact. Depends on how impressionable (young, low IQ, mentally ill) the person is. Most people can separate reality from fantasy. Some games are mass shooting games like State of Emergency. Grand Theft Auto is another brutal one. I don't think you can conclusively say that it doesn't affect anyone at all.

 

If someone can't separate reality from fantasy, they have a mental disorder, possibly a severe one.

Of course they affect people, the question is do they create mass shooters? Of course not. Anything I find fun affects me. My mind craves things that make it feel good. Cheese does the same thing.

Again, Grand Theft Auto, which for the record is not a mass shooting simulator it simply allows the player to do that with increasing consequences, is available to millions globally. And yet, mass shootings are only rising in the US. Why is that? That's a much harder question to answer, and yet that's where the truth lies.

 

If games make people violent, Madden should make everyone into pros, using that logic.

 

This Garbage was debunked and put into the garbage like jack Thompson's career. I remember that idiot going around the country chasing massacres to push his anti violent game views and help influence legislation. It was fun to see him make a fool of himself in court and get attacked in the media.

 

Talk to Adam Lanza about that -- or his mom.

Oops -- you can't -- they're both dead.

 

I have, but I didn't from age 8 to 40 and 10 hours a day doing it either.. Plus realism had greatly improved in just the last 20 years also. It's desensitized! You let a child go unchecked for nine years of their young life hanging out with sight and sound and OTHER players, unlimited other players and those violent games will take their toll You should do some research and discover deaths credited to sedentary, stress and pursuit associated with MMO games..

Nine years of progressive violent games, mixed with realism and comradery, you bet it's top notch training I have heard thing out of a nine year old on VOIP that would get you evaluated or jailed if said in public, and death threats are a common as WHITE BREAD!

And ANY time you or anyone else would like to hear real racism I can easily introduce you to voip channels and 10 year olds mixed with adults all of different race ALL just a bigoted and racist as you could ever imagine and it will most likely be because you KILLED them in game LMFAO

Statistics & Facts on MMO/MMORPG gaming

 

A man much smarter than you and I named Scott Adams had a take on this you should really check it out.

 

Just more smoke and mirrors from the right wing and the now Russkie infiltrated NRA.

 

This is just typical Trump - he "heard there was a connection" between violent video games and violence in society. So he arranged this little get together this afternoon, inviting some video game executives and "critics" of video games to the White House - but not one scientist who has looked objectively at the subject. This is just Trump and friends looking for a scapegoat, someone else to blame for mass shootings......it is deflection only - a classic buffoonish Trump move, and his base will believe whatever nonsense comes out of his yap.

 

No, he's not. He says he doesn't have to read the studies because he knows better. That's not the hallmark of a smart man. A smart man says I know nothing, let me read all available evidence. And that evidence shows no link between mass shootings and violent video games other than a few mass shooters played violent games. As do almost all non-mass shooters. So again, the idea that it has a strong link or causation or even correlation is incredibly unproven.

 

I don't know many people who play that many hours a day. Even in my hey day as a gamer, starting with the original Nintendo through PC games into college, I NEVER had that much time to play. In fact, no mass shooters has even been found to have played 10 hours a day.

So people who sit around all day with no activity and die are NOT what we are talking about. Sorry. That's a different topic. This was about video game violence causing mass shootings, per Trump's focus on anything but guns after being visited by his friends at the NRA.

People being bold on the internet? Crazy talk. Glad it never happens here...the reason a 9 year old is bold over VOIP during a video game is they 0 accountability for what they do. That's why video games are a release, they offer entertain with 0 accountability. Put that same 9 year old in the room with the person he's angry at, especially someone older and "scarier," and 99.9% of 9 year olds shut up. So again, no proof here.

Sorry, nothing shows any link to causing mass shootings. Again, this is one industry trying to pass the buck to another is all. Talk about irresponsible, the NRA might as well play video games all day. It would be as equally productive.

 

I don't need to, they were able to speak for him.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Hook_Elementary_School_shooting#Video_games

Super Mario Brothers is pretty violent, all the block smashing and turtle stomping. That's the same as an AR-15 to a child's head, right? Except it's not. No the problem here is a teenager had a high powered military rifle and shot children with it. Note that the anxiety and disorders he suffered from appeared to draw him to the video games, not the other way around.

Sorry, it's all coming back to lack gun laws and a society with a violence problem. Not video games.

 

That may be true, mentally ill people are already dissociated from reality. But there again, we aren't starting with video games. We are starting with mental illness.

 

I agree. Weapons should be limited to video games.

I have used bows, swords, staffs -- now I have a level 87 bow in Runescape.

In other games I have flown helicopters and spaceships armed with many weapons.

But real guns cause real damage and should be very limited.

 

In Runescape you have to build a character -- mine is from 2004. Not just mindless violence.

 

I've sniped many cops and civilians from my rooftop in GTA and its never carried over into real life.

 

I have slain thousands of dragons. With herbalore 86, I have potions which makes dragonfire 100% ineffective.

 

Right now I am eradicating the antelope population in Assassin Creed Origins so I can make a new belt.

I have no guilt about it whatsoever.

 

Different games have different terms. I have an assignment to kill 196 abyssal demons. They are weak for my level. My combat level is 136, while absolute maximum is 138.

 

In Skyrim I could one shot any dragon.

Then I took an arrow to the knee.

 

Sitting around playing a Violent VIDEO GAME all day, or should we say all their FREE time is very much so the topic, and actually a key element to your topic! You can't ignore it and really address the "Violent Game" question accurately!

Take Ultima Online(1997), Command and Conquer(1995), World Of Warcraft(2004) just those three have over a two decades of PvP interaction! Call of duty reach's back 2003 and is wildly played currently with over 250 million games sold in 2016, and we both know what Call of Duty main theme is about along with all the others mentioned

The problem you're wanting to avoid is the amount of exposure, age and parental supervision! You were close on one point "the reason a 9 year old is bold over VOIP during a video game is they 0 accountability for what they do." and that is just the environment they roam freely in Most of these children are in their rooms without any parents involvement other than paying the subscription cost per month..

Hell with it lemme just give you some examples of what I have seen over the last 15 years

Kid freaks out from being killed by another PLAYER!

And then they get a little older

And then we have the 40-50 year old group LOLOL

Lets do some antagonistic conditioning

And this a just a drop in the bucket of what's going on, you really need to educate yourself on this subject