The very same 5000 Taliban that have nothing to do with anything but you've thrown into every discussion north of 100 times in the past two weeks. That 5000 Taliban.
They do? I've not read any side by side comparisons. Anti-Abortionists also believe in a pure version of Islam?
Yes. They believe in an alleged "pure version of Christianity" (I mean, who is to say which is the purest when religion is purely subjectivist?) which is the exact same thing. Anti-abortionists and talibans alike wish to see a society where "God's word" is law and a society where women ought to cover up and obey while sacrifing all of their rights, liberties and happiness for the reward they will be handed once they are dead. The taliban are not bad because they are Muslim, they are bad because they are authoritarian and theocratic zealots driven and motivated by mysticism and not reason. As far as fundamentals go, anti-abortionists are no different.
I thought we were talking about anti-abortionists, not Christians? If you want to argue Christians vs Muslims, that seems a totally different subject not having anything to do with the subject of this thread.
What is the difference? Most anti-abortionist are opposed to abortion "because divine revelation" and the rest may be atheists, but they are operating in accordance with the religious premises. There is simply no rational (non-religious) argument against abortion.
They both support punishing women seeking out abortion and that is enough. The new Texas bill even encourages snitching on women you suspect (no proof needed) has had or will have an abortion. They want to punish those who perform abortion and even a supporting partner, friend, sibling or parent. Heck, even the man who pumps gas for her so she can go have an abortion in New Mexico is now seen as a thug. It is a perversion of justice and a slap in the face of liberty. Much like the taliban, these people put the holy book above the law. It is truly atrocious.
Anti-Choicers want women forced to gestate and radical Islamists want them stoned to death ...BOTH are punishment.
This is the most ridiculous claim ever. How many of the arguments have you read in the Abortion section of this forum that have anything to do with religion? This is an oft repeated pro-choice claim, that has little basis in fact. You might be able to argue that the motivating reasons behind the pro-choice side have to do with religion, but the arguments do not.
Atheists are "operating in accordance with the religious premises" if they oppose abortion? Interesting, but irrelevant. Meanwhile, don't you come from a country in which a women needs to get permission to get an abortion after 18 weeks?
What is the Taliban punishment and the Texas punishment for a woman seeking abortion? I don't know what the punishments are.
I think we've already established that everyone, including you, want to force women to "gestate." The only argument is the time period.
Most you are too scared to state it explicitly, but is pretty damn obvious from a lot of the posts' implications. In admitting religion is what motivates you, you know you would be disqualified for the irrational people that you are, so instead you try to hide behind nonsense about "DNA" and "heartbeat". Is it really though? Yes they do.
Yes, but this is to protect the mother and not with so much concern to the fetus. Late-term abortion is not criminalised. I believe the law states that week 21, day 6 is the maximum limit.
So you don't know what the Taliban punishment is, and you don't know if there even is a Texas punishment. You seem extremely ill informed about a subject you are extremely passionate about.
So you support your country's restrictions on abortion, but not a totally different country's. Weird but OK.
No, I do not support any irrational restrictions on abortion. For now, there is no debate about abortion in my country. Not even the Christian Democrats are interested in changing current legislation and I am thankful for that. I am glad to live in a country that at least gets abortion right. I am sure the law could be improved, but it is actually very good and works great. 80% of teen pregnancies were terminated via abortion a couple of years ago, I remember reading and that is great.
