Why Aren't Companies Hiring New Employees?

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Why Aren't Companies Hiring New Employees?

  1. Because Consumer Spending Is Down

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    42.9%
  2. Because Of Uncertainty About Government

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    57.1%
  1. gregdavidson

    gregdavidson New Member

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    I'm trying to sound Republican. According to Republicans, businesses create jobs. I'm trying to make the "obvious" point that business are nothing but an empty shell without customers. It's hard to explain common sense ideas to the right.
     
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    customers are cold wet and hungry without goods and services
     
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    Bring down my gas prices and I'll go out and buy something right now.
     
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    P. Lotor Banned Past Donor

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    Ok, well none of that addresses my post to which it was a response.

    Also, production always comes before consumption.
     
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    Have your fearless leader stop the pumping of trillions of cheep dollars into the finance system and the price will come down.
     
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    Because we are in dog chasing it's tail mode. IOW there are no jobs being created that are comparable to the cost of living in this country, and no jobs means no consumer confidence of any kind whether that be spending or investing. Not to mention that the country is being held hostage by the rich/elite (and the best government corporate money can buy), who have swindled their way into a monopolized bubble where the only way to make a profit is to become exempt from taxation, or be able to make use of a labor force that cannot survive under the wages they wish to offer. And they will make a profit even if they have to destroy this country to get it. So far they are doing a great job!!!
     
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    Good grief.
     
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    I think its great... It shows that American expertise and services is very much in demand in the Gulf...
     
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    Let me ask you something. If you got shot, would you go to the hospital to get the bullet removed and the wound bound? Or go to a 7/11 and pop as many pain relievers as you can?

    Obama has essentially be been using the second option since he was elected, yes, it may have been hard and painful to cut spending and try to get out of debt, but would have been better in the long run.

    With the stimulus and such bills, the wound will only fester until it eventually kills us.
     
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    Good. I think it's great when people all across the world are productive. It makes the world a better place.
     
  13. BuckNaked

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    The truth hurts sometimes.
     
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    Really?

    Have you noticed what is going on in the shallow waters off Louisiana or that the US is exporting gasoline for the first tie in 60 years.

    Have you considered tax reform that would repatriate US dollars earned abroad?
     
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    Tell me the truth and I'll let you know if it hurts.
     
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    I did, but instead of explaining the part where I am mistaken, or am misunderstanding of the reality that is glaring, you went all out Charlie Brown on me.


    Something isn't working, and it definitely isn't working for the majority any more. All the economic theory in the world will not change the situation we have been driven into by the best government corporate money can buy and the two party system. What is even more evident is that we (as a nation) may have already reached the point of NO return, but are simply too stupid to realize it.
     
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    I agree. We both know what isn't working for 98% of americans- the business cycle caused by decades of artificially low interest rates is not working for Americans. Time to go cold turkey on easy money heroin. The good news is that we can always fix the problem if we choose to.
     
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    Yea we agree the current system of corporate take and take doesn't seem to be working any more, now you say, you want to raise interest rates, to make things better? Really?? At this point in time???
     
     
    Let's see, raise interest rates and the price of everything automatically increases, yesterday. Then today, property taxes begin to rise, because most (who am I kidding) every, government federal, state, and local are in debt up to their eyeballs, and they are going to need money to keep things running smoothly (for whom I still am at a loss for words to identify). Then CEO's have a life style to keep up, and contracts that automatically give them pay/benefits raises whether they actually deserve them or not with ridiculously low interest rates, and since they already have those contractual obligations in place to assure they will never have to, egad, take a voluntary cut in pay (even if they drive the company into bankruptcy, they still get their bonuses and retirement packages no matter what) more jobs will sent to parts unknown to cover those costs and so the companies can meet the extrorte..., uh sorry, the expense of having people who obviously deserve more than they can ever possibly justify.
     

    So, and I'm with you so far, we have a higher cost of living yesterday, more job losses (less tax revenue), more government dependency that's both citizens depending on government and governemnt depending on foriegn banks to continue loaning money, at a much higher interest, of course), and well, I'm sure I'm forgetting something..., oh yea more loans defaulting and the banks need to be bailed out again, not to cover the loans but the pay raises and bonuses those poor rich bankers have grown accustomed to getting rather than actually having to "earn" them, today.
     
     
    OK, Okay, so then, you know, tomorrow, what do we do, finally declare our surrender and allegiance to mother China???
     
     
    I'm seriously lost, how does raising interest rates help, well, anybody at this point, especially people with college degrees working at 7-11, and having a hard time paying their rent now, but much less tomorrow, when their wages deplete under the newer higher cost of living??
     
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    Let's devalue our currency and hope for more foreign investment! Nope. Companies are still focusing on China.
     
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    devaluing our currency is the exact opposite of what we should be doing. do you understand the business cycle?
     
  21. BuckNaked

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    We have a business cycle?
     
    I mean back when competition and capitalism were strong a business cycle would routinely develop regularly, but in the manipulated cronyism market flamed by the plutocracy government we must deal with evidently since we cannot fix it with the help of the two party system and the best government corporate money can buy that dominates this controlled economy, cycles are to say the least irregular, and manipulated to a level of sporadic inconsistencies.
     
    It really does little to discuss economic models that no longer exist (if they ever actually did) in today’s controlled market.
     
     
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    LOL!

    Wait, you're serious?
     
  23. FearandLoathing

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    Well, yes, as a matter of fact he is.

    I will keep it really simple.

    The economy is in the tank.

    People are afraid it will get worse.

    Owebama has spent all the money on a recovery package that didn't work. The country is broke.

    Investment/retirement portfolios are a fraction of what they were.

    People are putting off large and medium purchases because they fear the future. They are making their cars last longer, delaying painting the home, putting on a new roof, foregoing vacations etc.

    Thus consumer spending is down.

    Also, Owebama's intervention in the economy has created even more uncertainty, blocking the Boeing expansion in N Carolina, the Keystone Pipeline etc.

    And yes, companies do "downsize", you may have heard about it. On average the non-union American employee is working 20 to 30% more and earning 8 to 12 % less than they did four years ago.
     
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    ...........wonder why gas and food are so expensive ?
     
  25. BuckNaked

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    This didn't happen over night, and it is definitely the fault of the two party system (both democrats and republicans alike) and the best government corporate money can buy, but this has been a 30-40 year premeditated political process, and it will take a lot more than the usual changing of the guards (the sock puppet corporate owned government) to solve the situation. At best we are looking at another lost generation or two, if we would have rectified the problem 10-20 years ago.
     
     
    Go ahead and hand the purse string back over to the republicans and insure the inevitable destruction of this nation as a whole. Any confident vote for the two party shuffle is another proverbial nail in the coffin.
     

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