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  1. MannieD

    MannieD New Member

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    There's a difference between hurricane intensity and hurricane frequency! So the graph of all hurricanes does not address Mann's comment. However, the positive trend of major hurricanes supports Mann's statement. There was a time when a scientist (I think it was Trenbreth) hypothesized that frequency would increase but he later acknowledged his hypothesis was wrong.
     
  2. Earthling

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    There is no sign of an increase in intensity or frequency of Atlantic hurricanes.
     
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    I think NOAA-15 is a secondary source these days, perhaps because of its suspected issues.

    There is no indication in the graph I provided that NOAA-15 was used. It is a West Coast focused satellite and the graph indicates that it is for latitudes north of 60 degrees.

    But I'm gald we agree that GISS uses station data not satellites as stated.
     
  4. MannieD

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    I've asked you three questions and you haven't answered any of them ; so either start answering my questions or don't bother addressing me because I won't waste my time reading your posts.
    I'll ask again: Could you define "Accumulated Cyclone Energy" for us?
     
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    Accumulated cyclone energy (ACE) is a measure used by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) to express the activity of individual tropical cyclones and entire tropical cyclone seasons, particularly the North Atlantic hurricane season. It uses an approximation of the wind energy used by a tropical system over its lifetime and is calculated every six-hour period. The ACE of a season is the sum of the ACEs for each storm and takes into account the number, strength, and duration of all the tropical storms in the season.

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    where vmax is estimated sustained wind speed in knots.


    Mod Edit ~ It's always a good idea to include a source.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accumulated_cyclone_energy
     
  6. Bowerbird

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    And what is happening in the rest of the world???
     
  7. Earthling

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    Why can't you?

    If it's that much of a problem for you to find, ask me again and I'll Google it for you.
     
  8. Earthling

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    Spoilsport. Ö¿Ö

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    Please see post #632
     
  9. MannieD

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    Thank you. I asked Earthling because I thought that he just posted a graph he found without understanding it. Perhaps now you'd care to answer this for Earthling:
    Who uses ACE as evidence for or against global warming? What peer-reviewed paper links ACE to global warming?
    And while your answering Earthling's questions, you can also answer these (in reference to this post :
    Who defines global warming by record high temperatures of the continents? What peer-reviewed paper concludes that continental high temperature records will be set within 30 years?
     
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    Because I didn't imply that GW affects ACE.
     
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    Not necessary because even the IPCC does not attempt to link AGW with weather and testified in Congress that they are not linked. Why bother.
     
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    Meaningless dodge
     
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    To a meaningless question.
     
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    You do understand that a decrease in all hurricane frequency and an increase in major hurricanes means that there's an increase in intensity, right?
     
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    Maybe you should explain that to your fellow "skeptics" every time they start a thread about local cold temperatures or record continental highs.
     
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    You mean like the warmers did about last years surface ice melt of the Greenland Ice Sheet?
     
  20. Earthling

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    It would be if there was, but there isn't, right? Ö¿Ö
     
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    Maybe you should explain how many threads have been started by sceptic on those subjects?

    Are there any?
     
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    Mannie, Mannie... I think you should have checked with BB about that before you made such a comment. So far I have participated in no less than THREE threads created on that very basis by your supporter...

    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=331750 just being the last
     
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    It'll be interesting to see how often Mannie gets it wrong before he gets something right.
     
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    Unlike local cold temperatures or record continental highs, research papers have actually addressed droughts & warming.
     
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    You can see the trend from 1950 (the start of the time period that the IPCC uses for anthropogenic warming) is downward except for the spike around 2005.

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