Why Conservatives Should Not Vote for Rick Perry

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  1. Yukon

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    Rick Perry was born in 1950. How did he manage to evade servie in Vietnam....did someone "pull some strings" for him like they did for G Bush, Junior? I think so.
     
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    Perry was in the Real Military (Not Texas Air National Guard) millions of Servicemen performed their dities without even being offshore of vietnam or flying over or setting foot there from 1959 -1975
     
  3. Pollycy

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    Rick Perry didn't "evade" anything, and if you could even use Google, you'd KNOW that. Here, I'll make it easy for you: http://2012.presidential-candidates.org/Perry/Military.php

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    [FONT=Arial, sans-serif]"Perry joined the USAF in 1972 and served with distinction for five years. He was discharged in 1977 with the rank of Captain. While in the Air Force, Perry was stationed at Dyess Air Force Base, Texas, Germany and Saudi Arabia. He was assigned to fly the C-130, a military transport aircraft, and flew to various locations around the world, including Europe, South America and Africa."

    By the way, here's something else you don't know: all American military forces were withdrawn from South Vietnam by the end of March 1973!

    I hope you hyperlibs go right on trying to make some kind of smear campaign based on Perry's military service because by contrast your President Jive-Ass has done NOTHING... except for making one bad decision after another in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Libya....
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  4. Yukon

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    Polly,

    You didnt answer my question. How did Perry avoid serving in vietnam?
     
  5. kmisho

    kmisho New Member Past Donor

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    You can't pick on people for smear campaigns when your own involves smearing shoe polish on your face.
     
  6. Pollycy

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    What makes you think he "avoided serving in Vietnam"? Were you even alive then? If you were, you remember that after all the hell that was raised in 1970 about the expansion of the war by Nixon into Cambodia, he finally decided to get out of Vietnam!

    From that Nixon disaster until we finally removed the last American serviceman early in 1973, fewer and fewer American military were sent anywhere in Southeast Asia at all! Why do you cling to some misguided delusion that the Department of Defense would have pinpointed some young Air Force officer, who had been in the military not more than a year, to be sure to send him to Vietnam when they were pulling everybody else OUT? This is beyond stupidity...!

    You have put your total ignorance of everything involving the Vietnam War on display. Now, I suggest you inform yourself about the reality of Rick Perry's honorable service in the United States Air Force before you show your ASS even more prominently than you already have! I gave you one link, and there are more, if you are interested in facts instead of the deceptive, slanderous farce you have tried to create. And for what it's worth, I'm an honorably-discharged, U. S. Air Force Vietnam-era veteran... I know what the hell I'm talking about... and obviously, you don't, and you never intended to... you just wanted to take a cheap, slanderous shot at Perry, and you're too conniving and twisted to admit it....
     
  7. PatrickT

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    I never wanted to vote for President Bush but the alternative would have been Vice President Al Gore or Senator John Kerry as President. It was, for me, the lesser of two evils. I'd never been less enthusiastic about voting that I was for Senator McCain but the alternative was, as we've all seen, much, much worse.
     
  8. 9/11 was an inside job

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    Here is ALSO the reason why nobody should vote for Perry.

    what else do you expect from a governor of TEXAS? He has gone on and admitted in his book that just like Bushwacker,he supports the death penalty so of course he is a clone of Bush jr whom Obama is a clone of continuing his policys and even expanding them.

    He would be the next biggest fraud of a president next to Obozo if he got got elected.Dont be surprised if he does.He is the poster boy for the establishment and a member of that evil organization The Council On Foreign Relations.

    our ONLY hope is if Ron Paul gets elected.the only candidate who is not a member of that group.
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  9. Yukon

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    P(honey)OLLY,

    Perry was a coward, he was born in 1950 and by all accounts should have been drafted by at least 1971 and sent to Vietnam. He dodged service. As fotr you I doubt very much that you ever got further than a Rambo movie - dress up in GI Joe costume watch rambo, and pretend to shoot VC. Dont give me your vet of Vietnam BS (real vets dont brag about their service).
     
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    Man... if Perry gets elected ( and if he doesnt stick his foot in his mouth too much.. he will) I am going to laugh me head off ( while the country finishes falling apart) at all you fools who thought he was the answer to Obama.. he IS Obama fools..
     
  11. SiliconMagician

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    And the only candidate who won't get (*)(*)(*)(*) done in office exactly because he's not a member of that group.

    You think Ron Paul is "bigger" than the system itself?

    What do you think he's going to do? Just waltz into the White House and tear the US Government to shreds single handedly regardless of polls, regardless of public opinion?

    An ideologue like him could do just as much harm as good.

    I'm not assisting in the election of a gold bug to the highest office in the land. If a 9/11 truther such as yourself loves him so much, that tells me all I need to know.

    Romney or Perry I dunno yet.. but it won't be Paul that's for sure or Michelle Bachman, otherwise known as O'Donnell Part 2
     
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    SiliconMagician...YOU HAVE BEEN ASSIMILATED!!

    The fact is that much of what has gone wrong in America lately has been by the use of executive order. These orders can be undone as easily as they were done.

    The fact that Ron Paul has been elected time and time again by the people of his Texas district shows that he's not a pure ideologue, but rather an effective Representative. His recent placing in Iowa and his preference by TEXANS over Perry shows that his message is now being heeded.

    Should Paul be elected, he will have a MUCH more clear mandate than Obama pretended to have. Remember his (Obama's) early arrogance? It's laughable now in the face of his broken presidency.

    Your thoughts reek not only of assimilation, but also of obsolescence and surrender.
     
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    Very good comments!
     
  14. Yukon

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    Perry wnated to have little girls in texas vacinated for STD's. I think this guy is some sort of weird closet sex deviant.
     
  15. Pollycy

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    Keep it up! You make a better case for Perry than nearly anyone else in this Forum, but, you demonstrate as little knowledge about the benefits of vaccination against STD's as you do about the Vietnam War, the Selective Service System, and "weird closet sex deviancy"....
     
  16. Yukon

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    Polly,

    If you agree with forced STD vacination you are as bad as Perry - Heil Perry !
     
  17. SiliconMagician

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    You know who Ron Paul represents to me? Ron Paul to me represents the Tim McVeighs of the world, right wing militia groups, survivalists and white nationalists like Joe Guzzardi at Vdare and those wonderful "libertarians" at Stormfront.

    You say "assimilated" as if it's a crime. As if actually holding a respectable career with a definite ladder of upward mobility in an age when upward mobility is restricted to most people of my life experience and educational level isn't something to be proud of.

    I don't hate the rich corporate business types because I deal with them on a day to day basis, they are my friends, my aquaintances. They aren't my masters, they treat me with respect.

    Who is it who disrespects me in life?

    The tourists, the poor, the lower middle class yobs who come in expecting a 5 star Hotel experience at a $70 Priceline bargain.

    People say I'm an elitist and a sell out? So be it. That's because the elite are the ones who treat me with respect and dignity and as a human being. It's the lower classes who spit on me and make outrageous demands of me in my life.

    I LIKE rich people because they are educated, motivated and full of good advice on how to advance your life.

    All the poor people do is steal and cost us money and grief.

    I know this country better than most people because I speak to a wide cross section of it's population every single day.

    I know the establishment better than any "libertarian" whackjob on Lew Rockwell because I'm out as a part of it.

    Ron Paul is right for all the wrong reasons, and I won't vote for that.
     
  18. Yukon

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    Silicon,

    You have a very bad attitude. I do agree with much of what you posted however it is your disdain for those who are not "as well off" that bothers me. Im glad I dont have to associate with "snobs" such as you.
     
  19. SiliconMagician

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    "Snob"? Not hardly. I just got a raise to 30k a year. I can't possibly be a snob. All I am is a single white working male who busts his butt serving all of America, literally.

    Monday through Wednesday I serve the Corporate Class, the businessmen of this nation. The movers, the shakers the CEO's. I make sure they have clean sheets and good food and good service and in return they thank me profusely because they lack a "home" experience being on the road 11 weeks out of every 13 week quarter.

    Then, on Thursday I take a day off and then on Friday I come into a zoo. Little kids running my lobby tearing stuff up and breaking it, knocking on guests doors disturbing them, parents drinking until 5 am in my lobby leaving a huge mess behind right at the time that the lobby needs to be clean for breakfast.

    You tell them the rules like no coolers in the lobby you get "(*)(*)(*)(*) you, I paid 70 bucks for this!" Half the price of a corporate guest.

    Then the next morning all the towels, all the expensive pillows, the iron, the hairdryer and the coffee maker are gone, sometimes even the microwave oven.

    That eats into our budget and eats into my raises and stuff.

    So who is economically benefiting me and who is not?

    I couldn't do my job if I wasn't a friendly, even tempered individual who takes a lot of crap, but that doesn't mean inside I don't hold a bit of resentment. Who wouldn't?
     
  20. SiliconMagician

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    No one has shown me the actual circumstances though. If HPV vaccination was simply added to the list of vaccines a child must get for school. Then no one has a right to complain. Teenage school girls have sex and must be protected.

    If the school system demands mumps, measels and other vaccinations to get into school they have a right to demand an HPV vaccine as well.
     
  21. Yukon

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    Yukon's response to this young lad's sorrowful post are in bold type:


     
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    WOW....just WOW!! SiliconMagician, you have just painted yourself as a house lackey for the rich without any prodding from the board at all. Like it's something to be proud of.

    Let me give you a personal contrast. I am the child of parents who were brought up dirt poor. My Mother spent her childhood working with her parents as a sharecropper. My Father was the son of a Kentucky dirt farmer. My generation is the first in our family to even get a high school diploma and I am the first to have any college education. So I know a little about climbing out of a hole to make something of yourself.

    I don't begrudge you your hard work. It's an honorable thing. It is not so honorable to look up to the rich and down your nose at others. You seem to have some air of elitism that you use to try to distinguish yourself from the rabble. Is that to impress those that couldn't give a $%#* what you think, so long as you serve them well.

    And the mention of those that get a Priceline break 'not deserving' of the experience that full payers get. Just who appointed you to discriminate in such a way? It doesn't matter how those people arrived at your business. ALL customers should be treated equal. A jerk is a jerk, no matter if they''re in shorts and sandals or a 3 piece suit. I wonder how much complaining you do about your business customers bad behavior?

    I've been around the block a time or two and know a little something about human nature. I've found that it's the working poor and the old money rich that are the most genuine. It's the upwardly mobile and wanna-be rich that put on airs and have an attitude. It's like they're not comfortable in their own skin.

    Back to Ron Paul. He believes in liberty....period. If you associate that with extremists, then YOU have a problem. Vote for whom you wish, but don't try to impart your personal demons on the rest of us and think we should feel the same. I'll take my chances with freedom over lacky-ism any day.

    "Anyone who trades liberty for security deserves neither liberty nor security"
    - Benjamin Franklin
     
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    OK, we finally agree on something...! I know of several people who had throat cancer that was directly attributable by otolaryngologists to human pappiloma viruses (read: sexually transmissible disease). Had the women been vaccinated (that's with two "c's", Yukon....) it is very unlikely that they, or their loved ones would suffer the horrible ravages of the glandular throat cancer that leaves the survivor without salivary glands and without the ability to swallow food, or taste it. You get to have a "feeding tube" port installed in your stomach and then you gravity-feed this pudding-like food concentrate into your gut. Some say that you'd be better off dead, and many do die, a very unpleasant death.... And that's just ONE kind of cancer you can get from the human pappiloma virus....

    But, oh, the part that we agree on? Yes, I'm as bad as Perry... thank you!

    Now, if you'd like to know how the Selective Service System worked during the Vietnam War era, and why it is OBVIOUS that Rick Perry didn't "dodge" the Draft, I'll do my best to explain this to you in terms that you might understand. Never forget: Ignorance can be cured with knowledge! :sun::):sun:

    One last afterword: I have refused to have any flu shots or any other government-sponsored vaccinations since the big Swine-Flu innoculation disaster of 1976. None of them made any sense to me, including the Flu Panic of 2009! But the vaccinations against STD's do! We must learn to determine what makes sense, and what does not....
     
  24. Yukon

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    Vaccination is a governemtn sponsored conspiracy right? You are nuts, absolutely 100% NUTS ! I will not in future respond to anything you post because I really believe based on your anti-vaccination comment that you are nuts, crazy, wacko, etc etc
     
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    "We" meaning bureaucrats who have no medical experience whatsoever? What if your governor determined that the Swine Flu was so important, he ordered it to be forcefully injected into every individual -- including your children? Should all vaccinations that you find make sense be imposed on everyone? Who determines "what makes sense" and who gets to determine which vaccines are forcefully injected into people or not?

    I have a crazy idea. Let's leave it to the individual and the parents. Let's allow each individual to determine for his/herself if (s)he thinks the vaccination makes sense, taking advice from any expert (s)he wants. Instead of forcing vaccines down the bloodstream of children at the government's discretion, let's allow the parents to determine what's right for their children. Let's not allow one bureaucrat to decide what will forcefully be injected into your children.
     

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